Make survival ranged

[Silverbolt-shadowmoon (Silverbolt)]

Yes please. Ranged survival was fun to play.

[Jasonhourne-hyjal]

@Shadina-gorefiend

Too many people actually play and like melee survival, me included.

That’s right your sample size of one…yep. Do you have any other valuable information this community is missing out on?

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

I linked numbers two replies down. Should read more.

85% of the 3’s ladder above 2k+ is Surv. 82% in 2’s. There’s plenty of people who actively play survival. And no reason to destroy it.

[Jasonhourne-hyjal]

@Blasco-area-52

Survival had always been the oddball spec for Hunters. It actually has an identity as a melee spec.

It HAD identity before it was turned into a melee spec. It was the kiting/traps/toolkit class. it was awesome in pvp. Now? it has zero identity, it’s made up class fantasy that blizzard decided to add from thin air.

[Xoule-haomarush]

I wish they would just roll it back to more of a Legion rotation, and yes I know it’s not a real rotation. This 3 or 4 button rotation is pretty boring comparatively.

[Xoule-haomarush]

You do realize in vanilla it was more melee than it was ranged right? It was a melee/trap spec. I remember Survival hunters meleeing warriors and beating them in duels in BWL.

[Duelon-area-52]

People loved it as a ranged spec and for some reason Blizzard decided to screw that up. As if there aren’t already melee dps in the game. There has never been a new ranged spec added to the game.

Demon Hunters should have a ranged spec imo. I think they could do some neat stuff if they brought thrown weapons back and gave them to DH’s to use as weapons for a ranged spec.

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

So melee surv is only relative in pvp where range was relative in both pve and pvp

[Golnok-blood-furnace]

It is not whether Survival is fun or viable, but whether the game has too many melee already.

[Churisso-azralon]

This is… interesting. An Aviela post I agree with.

[Duelon-area-52]

A broken clock is right twice a day.

[Ghorak-laughing-skull]

@Aviela-wyrmrest-accord

Make survival

Make it a 4th spec for RSV to return.

@Shadina-gorefiend

or they do the thing I thought they should have done earlier which is give hunters a fourth spec

Yep.

@Fsociety-bleeding-hollow

I don’t feel like I need a third ranged spec on the hunter

I do, very much so!

It just doesn’t have to replace current SV.

@Carhagen-moon-guard

if you want ranged, you have two other options

Neither of those play anywhere close to how RSV played.

@Nithenarina-dentarg

There isn’t enough bowman fantasy to spread over three specs, and there never has been. Blizzard finally (re)realised this, and it’s about time some players did

@Blasco-area-52

Survival had always been the oddball spec for Hunters

Wrong. So wrong…
(see bottom of reply)

@Eogan-the-scryers

Would just like to say to those saying hunters have two other ranged specs, problem is neither feel like old RSV

@Eogan-the-scryers

Reason I am more for the 4th spec rather than reverting MSV back is it would just create the same mess and cause the same animosity we see now with RSV players who lost their preferred spec

@Kaurmine-area-52

How about we leave survival the way it is and add a 4th spec called something and make it old survival, then everyone gets what they want (besides the ‘I don’t want other people to have what they want’ players)

Exactly.

@Silvine-magtheridon

I want a hunter spec where you use just one pet for it, but are still ranged

Yes.

Right now, we either have specs with mandatory pet reliance, or a spec not designed with pets in mind at all.

@Sinelius-proudmoore

No, OG survival was melee

No it wasn’t. It wasn’t a spec at all actually. It was a talent category containing talents that focused on increasing our survivability in various parts of the game. Through better traps, more defensives and situational melee-attacks for when we were caught in melee range. Etc.

@Sinelius-proudmoore

Also old ranged survival was hot garbage, it did nothing special and unique. It was a ranged spec with a 20% heal on enemy kills

Incorrect.

@Tholin-llane

Just my two copper, but yeah, some of us miss the old spec

I’m with ye! If only…

@Eogan-the-scryers

Just bring RSV back as a 4th spec, let people who enjoy MSV keep their spec, everyone’s relatively happy

Yep. Problem solved.

@Silverbolt-shadowmoon

Yes please. Ranged survival was fun to play

Most fun playstyle in WoW for me. Played it continuously from end of Wrath up until 6.2 in WoD.

I really hope that the devs swallow their pride and change their minds on that 4th spec option.

The old RSV had a ton of potential as a candidate for the modern game and it’s focus on spec identity. It had it’s own unique theme and playstyle which could’ve been built on even more so, going forward.

[Suggestions updated] Pre-Legion Survival [4th spec]

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

The reason why melee surv isn’t fun in PvE is purely because the rotation and resource generation is crap. It requires obvious adjustments, or some kind of rework.

But, as I have remained consistent within this thread, the solution is to bring in a fourth spec. There’s no reason to obliterate one over the other, or to destroy something when a fourth spec for hunter is fine, and can do what’s needed. That way everyone’s happy.

[Meladria-zuljin]

I would love a melee Beast Mastery with nice Night Elf Warglaive for my Hunter ^^

[Bellonà-area-52]

I personally want to see survival go back to legion survival, Theres no reason all 3 specs should be ranged, melee survival was super interesting and engaging. I have hated it since they gave them an option to do ranged attacks again. Bring back melee only legion survival. Doing the mage tower challenge felt so rewarding and fun as a melee hunter and i loved the mechanics.

[Bloodlines-stormrage]

no

[Zemus-hyjal]

What I miss the most about Cata Survival was Serpent Spread.

[Bloodlines-stormrage]

yes.

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

I agree with bringing in a 4th spec but however

@Shadina-gorefiend

There’s no reason to obliterate one over the other

Is what they did to range surv

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

I personally don’t think warriors need 3 melee specs one of the dps ones can go range