Sure but that’s speculation. Bodies of water are literally not mentioned in any Tauren myth or in-game story, other than the Rivermane tribe, whose river comes from a mountain whose peak has the “Fields of An’she” lol
No it’s been confirmed “Elune” is her “true name”.
Think of it like Christianity. Sure every language has its own word for God, but the Catholic Church still teaches the one true name of God is the Tetragrammaton, in Hebrew, the four letter name of God.
Well they do have greater interaction: they invoke An’she as Druids, as Priests, and as Paladins.
Earthmother is the all-encompassing religiosity, but class-wise it’s primarily Shaman.
That’s you, but you get my point.
Musha is An’she’s nickname for Elune, Belore is Elune’s nickname for An’she. Elune revealed herself as Elune to the Night Elves, and An’she revealed himself as An’she to the Tauren. Elune told the Night Elves of “Belore”, and An’she told the Tauren of “Mu’sha”.
And just as Elune is Elune on now two planets, I would like there to be more An’she as An’she on another planet.
Which is besides the point. They’re a Prairie Culture. They wouldn’t have lore about the oceans.
Irrelevant. That doesn’t change what I said. It’s still just the name she’s known by to some.
Pretty sure almost every class invokes Earthmother. At least, there’s an example of at least one NPC of any class who does… Maybe not warrior, unless you count Baine.
Those who invoke An’she though aren’t very common compared to those who invoke the Earthmother.
ehh… That’s speculation. Be careful not to do that and start to assume your headcanon as fact.
Also, you’re forgetting that Belore doesn’t mean Sun in Darnassian, only in Thalassian.
EDIT: Although, if you want to play around with it, it’s meaning in Darnassian, “To uncover something hidden or unknown”, could be, not his name or nickname but refering to her trying to find him. As in, he’s Lost or Hiding from her and she’s come to Azeroth to find him.
The fact the Rod of Tides can “choose” its wielder and was protected in a reused moonwell asset
Kul Tiran sailors pray to the White Lady for protection
Elune is most definitely the Tidemother.
Same as Elune is most definitely the one that was “whispering” to the Shadowmoon Orcs before the Darkstar/Draenei arrived and taught them celestial shamanism.
Mentioning her in speech is not invoking her power. All paladins, all priests, and all druids invoke, literally invoke, an’she.
Elune did reveal herself as Elune to the Night Elves, that is fact. Elune whispered to the Night Elves and gave them words that were later found to be in common with Titanic language.
And we don’t have an origin for the Tauren myths, but we do know that whatever their source gave the name “Mu’sha” for Elune and An’she for An’she.
Sure makes sense, although linguistically a lot of languages share a root for seeing/revealing and “light” given the old beliefs of lasers shooting out of our eyes to see.
An’she is off doing things while Elune is just hovering over their joint efforts.
He´s evidently just trolling for the giggles… you guys will do well into ignore his/her rabid posts cause I´m pretty sure he´s not interested in participating but actually on DERAILING the thread.
The expansion cinematic just popped into my head. There is Elemental uprisings and a new war between the elements is beginning. We see lands filled with elemental devastation and then two massive elemental lords rise up to face one another. Smolderon and Neptulon charge at one another but are blinded by a brilliant flash of sunlight over the horizon. A massive phoenix, its rider appearing only in silhouette.
Neptulon drops to his “knees” and whispers, “Father?”
Belore dismounts and makes his way through the field of war, drops to one knee in front of Smolderon and asks, “Where… is my son?”
Right. the name she’s known by to some. That’s what I said.
So? The Tauren aren’t the Dine.
Nothing “definite” about it.
You’re losing track of your own argument.
All of that would still apply to Azeroth, if Elune is the “mother” of the Titans.
I’ve said that the Earthmother is probably Elune but that doesn’t mean the Tidemother is also Elune.
(Or Azeroth and Elune are so interconnected that their myths became run-on.
Sort of envisioning a “holy trinity” parallel now… That’s kind of disturbing.)
You’re going to have to show something to support that headcanon, before you use the word “definitely.”
It is when offering a prayer or customary greeting and farewells.
Actually, we don’t know this at all. All we know is that the Tauren took the words for Sun and Moon and attributed them to Elune and “Musha.” Where those names come from, we don’t know. For all we know, Neither Musha or Elune gave them those names but maybe the Tauren communicated with Azeroth herself,
which actually adds another dimension to the meaning of those words. I don’t think Titans have a concept of “mother” and “father” but maybe they do have a concept of progenitors? Or at least Azeroth does.
Not by some, by the “chosen ones” of each respective planet by Elune. Night Warriors have only been Fyzandians and Night Elves within the narrative so far, and so far all Night Warriors call her Elune.
It is her true name, not “a” name.
That’s my point. You literally said “They’re a Prairie Culture” as if that explains why Earthmother = Tidemother, when literally all IRL Prairie Cultures have ocean myths lol
So to quote you, you are losing track of your own argument.
Cringe
This was Alliance-only questline so you have no excuse:
Our people have always drawn their magic from the earth and the moon.
We have always spoken the language of the stars and the earth. Now, we hear another - the voice of shadow
A key source of the Shadowmoon clan’s power comes from their understanding of the stars and their omens.
In one of the interviews leading up to Shadowlands, we were told we’ve already met people on other planets who worship Elune even if we weren’t entirely aware/wasn’t clear:
What I will say is that you will find out that reverence for Elune is not unique to Azeroth. There’s other worlds that worship her - and other figures that we’ve met before - in our storyline. So while Azeroth is the focus of our story, we do meet characters in the Shadowlands from other worlds - because the Shadowlands is the afterlife for not only people from Azeroth, but from all the worlds in the mortal realm.
You’re applying IRL anthropology to in-game mythos of an ethnic group, which we don’t have evidence for so we don’t know this at all.
Giggling and screaming is a sign of irrepressible fun. Not very thoughtful, just talking all sorts of nonsense designed to spoil the “good” experience of the Horde or “equalize” this experience with the experience of the Alliance. In general, yes, it is better to ignore, but how can you bargain alone? M … Yes.
Deleting a topic - is it equal to “derail the topic”, that is, start discussing all sorts of abstract nonsense? My name is NEFPA, so follow the stereotypes, or think that I follow it.
We seem to be arguing about something? Or was it Zuleika?
Has anyone found traces of An’She in the Alliance religions? Or were they mentioned, but I did not notice them?
Hoth, why seek An’She among the Alliance when Elune can be carved from the cultures of the Horde? One-eyed Mother Earth, Mother Ogre.
And the tauren bowed before the ogre and she said “Food!”
Were you trying to actually communicate anything on that incoherent wall of text? Cause even if one tries to understand, frankly there´s no cohesive message nor anything more than rando ideas with no apparent connection with each other.
Tl;dr: if you´re bored I think you can find waaay less taxing ways to achieve fun than to post in a place where nobody is paying attention to you…
It looks like the forthcoming Folk and Fairy Tales of Azeroth book is going to have a story called “Eyes of the Earth Mother,” which appears to be the tauren creation story of An’she and Mu’sha. I’m not sure if these fairy tales are considered “canon,” but I’m looking forward to learning more about tauren culture and traditions. I’m sure the story will be fuel for speculation about the nature of the Earth Mother and An’she.
