Where did I say I was “into” them? 
Just because I hate Maiev and she’s unstable and unfit to rule anyone, has zero to do with being “into” someone else.
All I did was give you facts on the Nelf population and say Maiev is bat crazy and unfit.
Someone’s feeling a little combative here.
Loosen up. It’s not like Blizz would give one sht about this idea. 
I’m not combative at all… you just seem to be pulling stuff out of nowhere about me, thus the confusion and clarification. Nothing to “loosen up” about. 
Anywho, I’ve given my two cents. I’ll let others give theirs and don’t want to derail the topic.
Shandris would be a better leader than Maiev. Shandris is Tyrande’s adopted daughter and is a far better character than Maiev.
She hasn’t paid for what she did in the books. The tried to kill Tyrande. And she has no care about leading except for the hunt. She isn’t a good leader. Plus she is old.
Shandris is also old, but far younger than Maiev…
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Jaina killed those who were fighting back and didn’t surrender. She did not murder people in cold blood. She almost did, but never did. All other Blood Elves who surrendered were put in prison.
Maiev killed to kill. She even tried to kill her own brother and Malfurion.
What does her or Maiev’s age have to do with anything?
She’s just another straight-laced military type. Clone of Tyrande. Like most femnelves. Doesn’t have that spark that Maiev has.
Tyrande hasn’t paid for killing the Watchers in Illidan’s prison, either. NE leaders seem to be loose on just who gets the pointy end of the stick when it comes to justice. Maiev is all about justice. And some needs to be dished out in the current world. That’s right up her alley.
So, I disagree on Shandris.
Also, the burning of Teldrassil was not an extinction level event. They had only just moved to Teldrassil right before Classic in the timeline after Warcraft 3.
There are millions upon millions of NIght Elves. They did not just leave on Teldrassil. Even after all of this, the Night Elves still probably have the largest single racial army other than maybe the dwarves.
Shandris is the LEADER of the damn army. Maiev is nothing and honestly should just die because her character and single minded with no growth at all while Shandris can still grow a lot and has grown more than Maiev. Maiev doesn’t care.
And age has a lot to do with it. If you have noticed, most racial leaders are being replaced with the younger generation. Moira, Baine, Anduin, Vol’jin’s son.
The Night Elves are not immortal anymore and eventually Maiev will die, if not from battle, then from age.
What a horrible idea.
Maiev is basically the night elf version of Sylvanas, and the only thing holding her back is lack of plot armor.
Welp, nothing to be done for those with narrow vision.
I reject stale, boring leaders with stale, boring stories. Are you desiring more Blanduin and Baine? Yawn.
Alliance needs a shakeup. Some controversy. Not the same ole, same ole.
Much of the population did live there. Don’t forget, Felwood is corrupted and Ashenvale was overrun in Cata. Darkshore was also a casualty of the Shattering.
But, as I said earlier, a lot of them got out. So they’re definitely not extinction level.
Maybe I’m misremembering the purging of Dalaran, but I could’ve sworn Jaina was walking around killing elves that were cowering/running away.
Op: I don’t think Maiev would make a good leader. I do wish nelves were actually portrayed as savage amazon warriors instead of a bunch of beta hippies. Blizz really hasn’t done them any favors in WoW.
People keep saying this, when she actually was a good leader. For thousands of years. She led the Watchers, and had their respect and loyalty.
There are peacetime leaders. And wartime leaders. NE’s need a wartime leader. The tree was the single biggest loss of NE life since what, the Sundering?
Payback is necessary. And no contrived “Night Warrior” that couldn’t even defeat Nathanos (with Furion in tow) is gonna cut the mustard.
It doesn’t matter.
Your post right here explains why it’s not a Night Elf problem, but a developers problem.
Killing the strongest Alliance leader won’t make the Night Elves better. It will give the devs more room to bully them. You can make Thanos the leader of the Night Elves, and as long as the devs want to use them as Horde punching bags, they will.
So I disagree, no other Night Elf fits to lead them. Maiev is not bad, but she’s crazier than Tyrande. And without Tyrande or Malfurion there the devs won’t say “Hey, let’s writte them better!”, they are more likely to say “Well, now we don’t have to make up excuses to have their leader losing.”
Because here it was that. Here the Horde won by a lucky shot. Malfurion with a crippled army was about to end the war, and no other NE can make up for that. Saying “being about to” doesn’t make him less powerful neither diminishes the consequences.
A weaker leader would not even do this, a weaker leader would suffer even more, more casualties, more bullying from the enemy that lives nearby.
A weaker leader won’t make this “not enough” better. Just worse.
Found your problem here, chief. Xenophobia doesn’t fly in the Alliance anymore, unless you want NE to no longer be part of the Alliance as a whole (and thus, non-playable).
If the Night Elves ever made Maiev their leader I would personally burn down every tree remotely close to being called a home to their race. Every self righteous Warden bastard deserves to die. I bloody hated gaining rep with them in Legion.
ofc it’s a developer problem
There’s no point in repeatedly saying a character is strong when they are written consistently as weak and ineffective.
I disagree, Stormwind has been uunscathed, despite having the weakest leader it has ever had. Again, developer issue vs manifest observation at the perspective of the reader. Malfurion and Tyrande are pitifully weak. Killing them off would not be substantive, just cathartic.
Arthas wasn’t a bad guy, he was ahead of the curve.
How come giving the Horde a fight without the majority of his army, spanking his general and then putting their leader on her knees when he took on Sylvanas who probably attacked him aided by several Orcs weak?
Anduin, Genn, Jaina, however is the Dwarf leader or any other leader would’ve fared far worse. Nobody here could replicate what Malfurion did.
Of course we can’t compare going to Stormwind with Darnassus, because the main capital of the Horde is literally the Night Elf’s neighboor.
And let’s rememebr how a small group of Horde burned Stormwind when they even had Jaina and Genn. So…
Well its the kind of existencial crisis that happen when u loose your reason to live. I mean when u chase after someone for over 8000 year to be told to stop cause he is there to help. U kinda loose perspective of what to do with yourself.