I love my Werebear (not you, weird fel monstrosity) and Sparkle Kitty and I would love if everyone could still get them.
I don’t think anything should ever become unobtainable in this game, but I do think the effort to obtain most things should still remain in some form.
I agree, the idea does need to go because it’s not a punishment, it’s just the way life works.
But I’ll tell you what’s actually toxic: shaming people for being proud of their digital trophies. Not sure when this became ok. It’s funny how in life we congratulate someone on their trophy, even if it’s for something as silly as stuffing a bunch of hotdogs down your gullet, but in games we think it’s some how acceptable to shame and belittle people that don’t want their digital trophies to become meaningless.
Not saying that’s what you’re doing but it’s been done many times by many people in many different threads.
Well, it’s gone. The artifact weapons and legendaries we used to beat these challenges are deactivated. That’s why it was a timed event…
Because we do not own them. This isn’t some sort of oldschool pc game or movie you buy, it’s a digital product with a long user agreement, which states, that nothing you achieve in the game belongs to you.
I think it’s, most of the time, fair to shame these people for the very simple reason that they defend something they simply don’t own in the first place. It’s the same logic, where people get all sort of illnesses from smoking but still defend consuming 20 cigarettes a day, because it’s part of who they are. Most people are just way too deep in the rabbit hole to realize that they have a symbiotic relationship with the game.
That doesn’t make shaming people ok.
No, it’s really not ok or fair.
I honestly don’t understand how these two things relate. At all.
Anyways, the same argument can be used against you. Since you don’t own these digital items, and Blizzard decided that they’re only going to give them to people that checked certain boxes, then it’s silly for people to demand their return. You have no rights to them.
People are way too deep in the rabbit hole, simply put. It’s too important for them to let it go. It’s an unhealthy relationship people have with the game.
Absolutely true - but I do realize that this is still a game and not an extension of my life. That’s why other people should also have them, especially when new people join the game all the time and the overall weapon quality has been decreased since Legion.
Well, again, that can be used on the other side too. If they’re just pixels, and you don’t own them, why spend an unhealthy amount of time obsessing and demanding their return?
And they have opportunities to do all the new limited time content.
This is simply not true. The graphic quality of weapons improve every time a new xpac is released. Hell, all graphic quality for every thing improves because technology improves.
Maybe you like the MT appearances better and that’s fine but it’s still an opinion.
Since mage tower is harder now than in legion should you absolutely be able to get the skins!
Chads: all should be able to enjoy the game however they like! And eat a steak and drink some whisky!
Entitled: No! I can’t enjoy my toys if I know that someone else have fun too!
Threads like this is always hilarious 
What’s hilarious is this stupid logic. There are many people with the MT skin and I’m fine with that because they did the same thing I did to get them 
Also what I think is hilarious is people stomping their little tiny child feet, demanding a toy some other kid has after they’ve been told they can’t have it. Most kids grow out of that phase once they hit the double digits.
The tone of your post seems to match what is being described. I want mage tower skins back since it should open up the boa aspect to the other weapon skins that every other legion skin has. I don’t want to level old characters to do 10 legion m0s and rbgs so I can use red fire warglaives on a different demon hunter. That the mage tower came back, it wasn’t at its easiest in fact it was on par with its hardest state on rerelease and the weapons didn’t come back is ridiculous. The items are in game and its silly to withhold them because of some arbitrary constraints. There are thing so much more prestigious then the mage tower that stay in the game. Mythic mounts and mogs are apparently not prestigious enough but the challenge mode that got outscaled by lfr gear is apparently a sacred cow.
Yeah my tone definitely wasn’t response to someone calling anyone against these skins returning an entitled child with a toy.
Because that person is on your side so that makes it ok.
Engaging with it is the mistake, it makes both of you look bad rather then the initial bad post.
I don’t think so because these people think they are so right that they don’t understand it goes both ways until you hit them on the forehead with their hypocrisy.
Actually, even then I don’t think they realize it.
Because changing peoples minds on the internet is so easy. Also hypocrisy? It was a meme response but I don’t see hypocrisy there could you elaborate?
I find this hard to believe you don’t see how it’s hypocritical to call someone entitled and imply they’re a child with a toy when they’re the ones demanding something they were told they can’t have? That’s the very definition of entitled.
I don’t spend time “obsessing” over them, but I do post my concerns when I have time for it.
You have a point here. Let me rephrase it better then.
We have not enough lore/class-based weapons to justify the removal of the MT-weapons. We got a few new ones with the trading post, but this doesn’t excuse the matter in the slightest.
While the game always brings new weapons and gear transmogs out, they usually aren’t important. Most of them are theme park designs, based on a current zone or race. If you wish to have a new Troll or Pandaren-based transmog, then you have only the trading post designs available to them. I don’t remember how many specific race/class MT-designs are locked away but as far as I know it’s for the Mag’har Orc one weapon so far.
I think the solution is for them to release more appearances, which they have been. They are really cranking them out with the TP and other in game events (like the time rifts, Emerald Dream and upcoming Delves.) We just need to give them time.
Well if you gonna do that, i guess ill take SL season 4 KSM mount since it no longer in the game and i missed out, you know they are both challenging content and it will go good with my mog
It might just be that I feel that I have a decent argument for why I’d want it back, and can’t really sympathize with any argument that focuses on “blizzard said so” after blizzard has said so many things. Blizzard said we’d keep covenants a meaningful choice, blizzard said torment gear was basically tier, Blizzard say high elves, blizzard say flying, I say listen to blizzard with a salt shaker nearby. A lot of this stuff tends to be subject to change if it can be shown to be a negative aspect of the game.
I also don’t like the use of entitled as an insult as the word just used to be a perfectly reasonable thing as it was basically descriptor for cause and effect. You give money to a cashier and you are entitled to the things you payed for, the word isn’t a inherently negative thing even if it somehow became a common insult for some reason. In this case the argument of clear mage tower be entitled to mage tower weapon skins is made a bit, and I personally don’t see why not, but at the moment isn’t enacted because blizzard is currently of a differing opinion. I don’t see the need to look down on either side of the argument implicitly like I see a lot in these threads, even if I have my own opinion on the subject.
My argument doesn’t focus on that and I explained my position many times in the thread.
Sure, they change their mind all the time. However, they don’t seem that keen on changing their mind on seasonal stuff and that was reinforced in a recent interview with Ion.
Btw, you keep shifting around my points and that hasn’t escaped me. I really don’t care if you view “entitled” as an insult or not and it has nothing to do with that person being a hypocrite by calling people entitled children with a toy because they don’t think seasonal stuff should come back.
The entitlement argument is the blizzard said no argument. Seasonal rewards can be fine but my issue there is that the legion weapon appearances is ALOT of seasonal rewards compared to the usual. Most patches have some seasonal rewards, but the scale of the mage tower is a bit much in comparison since in general we have 1-2 mounts from aotc+m+ season which tend to be seasonal rewards and the pvp sets. The pvp sets are a good example since you could view them as on par for the scale of the mage towers ~100 weapon appearances if you ignore the 8 druid forms. However one thing about pvp sets is that they are already recolors the sets that you miss from not doing pvp on every character every season are sets you cans still get in other colors which I don’t think makes it fine but makes it better. I don’t mind seasonal rewards existing but the mage tower stuff I feel is egregious and while I’d prefer total mage tower weapon availablity, I also wouldn’t mind just having a recolor or something like finishing the mage tower opens up the ability to unlock the side colors for everyone.
Also I’m not defending the other disrespectful post, posts like the meme one you are referencing tend to make the topic look worse for everyone involved. I just think its in bad taste rather then hypocritical since we are free to disagree about the value of seasonal gear in this game.