Mage Pruning is really, really, really bad

This is assuming a degree of competence.

Low-mid MMR Mage floats around the lower tiers.

One person on a beta that’s been out for two days where you can’t even test max level PvP…. Mages gonna be whiney soon enough, happens every time

If mages did that sure

I think I made about 3 separate posts calling for my spec to be nerfed this season.

Idk are you frost? Fire and arcane are/were insane/broken

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That wasn’t my complaint, it was primarily how the class feels really simplistic and on rails. The agency to use spells when we like, not when we’re told to.

And I know it’s just beta, abilities are broken right now and damage is all over the place, but those can be tweaked. You’re much stronger in beta vs live, based on my experience in transferring my character over.

But the removal of certain iconic spells and the merging of abilities for simplicity just feels awful. This isn’t just a mage thing, I understand that.

And no, mate, I provided you my feedback that blink is 15 seconds, not 10 seconds as you claimed. I’d gladly give up a blink charge for blast wave or icy flows lol.

At any rate, I encourage people to visit the beta feedback forums. Not many players are happy with the pruning, and as I mentioned, not just a mage thing.

Cheers all. I don’t want this thread to derail into class bashing or whatever. I was hoping to just raise awareness.

Arcane. But I’ve played it less and less ever since shortly after Overpowered Barrier got all the speed cut in half without them fixing the bug where it can go an entire match flat out not working.

Screw that, they can remain dead. Ice Floes is way less fun than Shimmer and Blast Wave is nothing but toxic and unnecessary.

Might I remind you that no other class can break stuns every 15 secs or even close to that.

Oh no no! I love blast wave, not just in PvP, but delve or solo content.

Also, you’re a quick reader! Lol :joy:

Why did you not like blast wave? With all the cc in the game, it almost always drd for me, and then my smile went away when target was immune. Lol

With 4 Shimmers/Blinks we don’t also need a knockback, plus we have DB Sheep/Ring, it’s just overkill and overly favours us on raised maps.

Adding in another thing, it also meant we didn’t have to be particularly good at aiming Ring.

If this was directed at me, there is some truth. I’m pretty much mid at best, but that is because I just stop at elite set.

But, I don’t believe I’m incompetent at the class, rather just happy and comfortable with stopping at elite set. PvP gets far too toxic at higher levels, at least in my experience.

I’d like to just go back to the days of Arcane’s kiting style being fully in its ability to maintain its extra move speed, not massive control.

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How do you come up with 4 shimmers or blinks? I’m only at two. I’ll log into beta later again. Cause, I don’t think alter time resets a charge anymore. I could be mistaken though.

think that’s the goal with every class

how so? they removed a full stun DR and you have a trinket with a lower CD than the DR itself, making you insane into anything that would require lockdowns to secure kills on you. Mage and hunt were seeing more and more defensive bloat and/or cc and it needed to be reeled back in

3 + Alter to be fair, because Alter still resets a charge and the 2nd charge talent is in the class tree now.

Blink actually gained its 2nd charge back from back in the day without having to give up the root and stun break portion which has never been a thing before (having both).

It wasn’t aimed at anybody in particular.

yeah paladin lost rep and pretty much lost glare sooooo

It’s almost like people forget EVERY class is getting pruned…that’s kind of the point.

But no, let’s lose our minds because it’s ā€˜not the same’

good

good

good

doesn’t have to be so black and white

mages right now are like super saiyan dragon ball z characters

mage was the best class in the game almost every expansion with nothing but blink and frost nova for the vast majority of this games lifespan

you’re an idiot

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Chrono isn’t gone.

bad

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