It’s out boys. I really don’t see how anyone in the community can still support the idea of paid boosting in classic.
A TLDR version of points he makes across the video:
- The old world being abandoned
- Botting getting even worse
- Making it easy for cheaters (bots who get banned can jump right back into money-making)
- Being able to buy gold without getting banned (via xmute alts - requires level 50 to learn Outlands professions)
- An inconsistent target audience (Bring players into BC who are uninterested in Classic - yet players with level 60s can buy a boost)
- Creating advantages based off IRL wealth disparities ($60 might be too steep for some people)
- Leveling being ignored (“Leveling is boring, leveling takes too long” so Blizz decides to just nuke it, offer a paid way to skip it instead of Blizz taking time to fix it)
- Speeding players closer to stagnation (People already complain about long phases, not enough to do. MMO time commitments include leveling. Stagnation happens quicker if people can skip most of leveling)
- Opening the door to more cash shop services (slippery slope argument)
- All for players who will struggle to even play the game (“I don’t have the time to level through Classic” - Ok, will you have time to do your attunments? Grind revered to do heroics? etc.)
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Yes my mind has been changed because a low-tier youtuber told me what my opinion should be! The lowest common denominator of appealing to “authority”.
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I leveled an Alliance Paladin from 1-60 in Classic and in actual Vanilla. When TBC became available, I deleted that toon when my guild went Horde and I made a Blood Elf Pally. My journey in Classic TBC will likely mirror my original journey in WOW. I am against the idea of boosting.
With that being said, if you’re against boosting in-game for free or a fee, you should also be against the idea of TBC’s two new races being available prior to launch. Blood Elves and Dranei were definitely NOT available to players back then till the portal opened.
That being said, it doesn’t impact my life - I’m leveling a Blood Elf Pally again and I could gives a rats butt about what other people do.
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People need only to look at what things like Boosts did to the game the first time around. How it changed the community, how it devalued the journey and the experience, etc. The greatest teacher is history. But Activision aren’t going to change their minds now. TBC will have boosts. Wrath will add another one. Probably unlimited after that. The Classic version will go down the same path that Retail did already.
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Boosts didnt devalue the leveling experience. By the time of Wotlk, it just became too cumbersome for alts and new players, and blizzard introduced heirlooms to try and deal with the alt part. Then cataclysm is what fully devalued the leveling experience, making it an ultra-fast journey through the revamped/streamlined azeroth.
Yes, boosts will have some negative effects. They will also have some positive effects. No, they wont be the end of classic as many imply, and boosts will not go away no matter how many forum threads there are. Blizzard is not in the habit of listening when the players say “Please dont sell us something that you will make a lot of money on”.
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I never understood deleting max level tools like that. Why wouldn’t you just leave it alone in case you went back?
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Stopped watching when he suggesed the popularity of WoW fell off because of paid services being introduced to the game at the end of WOTLK.
I suppose we should assume that video game popularity should never peak if it’s a good game.
I’m glad he said this was only his opinion as he did little to support his position other than refer to logical fallacies.
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I made it until he started making syntax based and sophistic retorts against the positive parts of boosts. Funny enough, I actually liked some of his previous videos about classic loot issues and ranking to 14. I guess logical arguments arent his strong point, and he should restrain himself to journalism, not editorials.
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Different people, different personalities. But, it seems that enough people have not only deleted toons, but also requested them to be restored that Blizzard decided to add character restoration into the game.
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The OP literally gave the reason in the post. Their guild rerolled horde, which strongly implies it was a same-server reroll as was common back then. And as you said, it was super easy to restore a character back then. Put in a GM ticket, usually get a response with a day.
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Well OP as in the one who posted the part about the deletion, aka Vanna
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Oh, I see it now.
I think the post I was responding to was more generally questing deleting characters, rather than the situation the OP was referring to, where you cannot have both factions on the same PVP server.
I deleted 2 max-level characters during TBC, due to sex or race choices that I later regretted.
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Lmao, so clear from your comment that you didn’t watch the video, he literally makes fun of your ad hominem attacks that ignore all reasonable logic.
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It’s a 1 hour-long video! Who cares what some random dude on the Internet thinks about boosts in WoW TBC Classic?
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I joined a guild of mostly real life friends and friends of friends. They were all interested in going Horde. The Alliance scene on our server (Stonemaul) was terri-bad at the end of Vanilla. We decided to give raiding a try on Horde and liked it more. Not for the racials but because of the cohesion of the faction on that particular server. There was also a larger pool of people to recruit from. And back then, no one really thought about these things like people do now.
The GM suggested it. I think we voted by SurveyMonkey and like 90% of the guild decided to do it. We’d do all the way up to Naxx on Alliance side (never did finish) but we’d basically go there/back again with Alliance and at the time, going Horde seemed like a fun thing to do. Level all over again with friends and try the other side of the story.
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Im super mad. Some might say raging. Even frothing. Rabid!
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Do you know what ad hominem means? It’s a logical fallacy, where you attack the character of the person instead of what they said, because you can’t actually disprove their argument. Instead of wasting all our time calling him an irrelevant random dude, why don’t you actually address the extremely strong points he has made. If you don’t care, all the more reason for you to side with those against the boost, because we do care, and are willing to put in the time to think about what is best, and try to save the game. If you aren’t willing to put in the minimal effort involved in critically analyzing the situation, the least you can do is stand back and do nothing, so those of us who do care can protect the game.
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+1, hopefully Blizzard can hear from classic main players that this is the wrong path for the game, and that those who are in favor of boosting, rather than alternative presented in the video, probably aren’t going to be sticking around for long anyway, leaving the rest of us with a damaged game.
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