Well, I guess if madseason says so, then I better change my mind. Anything else would be illogical. lol
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Thats right, you accept his authority and think what your told!
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Nope, no appeal to authority, the botting problem, the cheapening of the lvling process, the pay to win aspect with gold sinks, extra gdkp filler characters, and pay to win creep are all very real problems that we have been against since long before Madseason made the video. The only reason you need to call other people “sheep” is because you don’t have anything to respond to those issues with.
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Not trolling, but what do you base this on? I’m actually pretty ambivalent to the whole boost thing, but I think the anti-boost crowd is making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Pretty spicy
I do know what ad hominem means. I didn’t mean that as an argument against what he’s saying, but rather that you didn’t actually post anything meaningful. You posted a link to a 1-hour long video. Presumably one that you didn’t even make!
Why not post your own thoughts, and ideas? Then we have a discussion. If you like what this guy is saying, why not give a synopsis of it that’s suitable for a forum discussion.
YouTube has a comments section for people who watch this guys’ videos. I don’t mean to attack him personally, but I also am not going to spend an hour watching his video because it was posted on these forums with very little (or no) indication of the points it’s making, nor their merit.
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Those are valid points, but is is one character per account. It would probably take 2-3 days played for the average person to level a character to 58. And boosting will still likely be a thing in TBC with paladins, reducing that time significantly.
A lot of classic players already have lots of alts. Adding one more is very unlikely to have a noticeable impact from what we already see. Going from 3 to 4 alts is much less significant from only having one character to suddenly having an alt.
And it’s one per account and will probably cost $60. Ok yeah people who like to waste money can buy more accounts and boosts. More power to them I suppose. That doesn’t solve gold buying or botting, which are more fundamental than offering one level 58 boost.
That said, I’m not really for boosts. I just can’t be that bothered about this change since it’s limited to one per account. If it was unlimited then I’d have a much bigger problem.
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player drop retail wow because all garbage in game
player ask for classic , 1 year after blizzard change classic with retail feature
they really laugh of classic player
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Didn’t take long for this thread to turn into attacks on Madseason and completely ignoring what he actually said.
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You should take a page out of his book and RP as someone without a lower jaw.
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It’s because the pro-boosting community literally has no argument that can hold up. So they revert to personal attacks and also abusing the forum report features to take threads down.
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Your right, we should resort to linking youtubers saying what we should think in order to prove our points too.
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Can we normalize summarizing the talking points of a video so that we can have a conversation about it rather than asking me to spend an hour of my life watching a video from some dude I don’t care about and don’t really care to give ad money to?
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I say that for two reasons.
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People who don’t want to spend time leveling are also less likely to enjoy TBCs endgame, which is very grindy/attunement heavy. If you prefer to skip say, 30% of the game to get to endgame, wouldn’t you also prefer to skip all the of complex quest chains and rep grinds necessary to attune to TBC raids? The expansion endgame is really designed for slower progression with a decent amount of grinding, and those who don’t enjoy the leveling grind are also probably not going to enjoy the rep/complex attunement grind.
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People generally are less attached to characters that are boosted, because they didn’t put in any effort to make that progress. Also, you start with this huge jump of serotonin from the instant progress, and then the progress fizzles out once the endgame gearing starts, which makes the game feel artificially bad. And of course this doesn’t apply to everyone, but a lot of people, including myself, have experienced this effect on retail. I can say it’s one of the reasons I log in each new expansion to get a feel for it, but after a week or two have no motivation to play anymore.
But in general, people are opposed to boosting because of how it would effect the game in the other ways mentioned in the video, not because we think every player will respond to boosts the same way. These are just some of the reasons the boost isn’t even the best solution for the problem it alleges to address.
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dude go play retail
is got reason why player drop retail and ask for classic
here is classic , no need to be toxic with other user because he are not agree with you
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I appreciate the response, but I will say part of the reason people are sharing the Madseason video is because he does a really good job addressing some of the points you made, and why the “well it’s only gonna make things marginally worse” prospective is flawed. I get its an hour, but it’s worth a listen, even if just on double speed while doing something else haha. Maybe it comes across as lazy for me to say “watch the video,” but I think he does a good job stating the points and it’s a lot to type out the whole argument every time in response to each comment haha.
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the one ask boost are not classic player , 1 year the game is out and you still dont have 1 level 60 ? before tbc is out you have a other 1 or 2 month to have a level 60 , you are just to lazy and trying to find excuse , what are you doing right now ?? wasting time on the forum ??? compare to play the game right now and make your level 60 , ME RIGHT NOW I PLAY THE GAME AND MAKE MY LEVEL 60 , you are lazy and you belong to retail wow not classic , retail player are a joke
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lol. did you ever find the horse that kicked you in the head
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The majority of players in TBC classic will be people who are playing vanilla classic. For me personally, I don’t see how boosts will affect my enjoyment of TBC except with the possibility of more rampant botting.
I do think that boosts are a bad way for someone to experience WoW. I think the leveling process is part of the game. However, that’s their experience, not mine. People have so many alts, I will never know which one was boosted and which one wasn’t. Most people who will boost are already veterans of classic.
I don’t like boosts, but it existing will not affect my enjoyment of TBC classic.
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There’s nothing you can do about boosting, it’s here to stay, a promised feature and there will be huge backlash if they turn it around. Honestly I don’t think it had any impact in retail WoW the boost is so expensive and leveling is so easy that it’s not even worth the investment, the real problem with retail wow is that it’s just a washed up game and people just don’t care for it as much.