I’d like to see threat return to pre-1.12.
i really hope all the #nochangers do this and not play till sharding is gone. that way the rest of us will be miles ahead of you ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
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Which is how we know they really will be playing even though the feign is real on the forums.
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its so true. they all say no changes or i won’t play, but they will 100% be there minute 1 of release night chewing at the bit to log in.
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Yes, yes we are. I take it you don’t even understand how bugs work at all so this conversation is like discussing algebra to a 5 year old.
Did you see that bug in I linked with rain of fire and blizzard staying permenantly on the ground in orgimar? Were those spells new? Was that zone new? They were both in legion right so why did they act like that? It’s because bugs came come out of the blue for no real aparant reason. So yeah, just because the content is physically in the game right now and all they have to do is change them back to their original state doesn’t mean they will be bugless. But of course I can tell you don’t understand this because you thought betas weren’t actually used for bug testing lol.
And did you really suggest that because they didn’t beta test the damn DEMO that they could do the same for classic? Oh honey… first of all it is was a DEMO it was just a spectictle so of course they aren’t going to beta test a spectacle lol. Second off it was literally two zones with only a few quests… they can test that themselves fairly easily into at least a working version. Which they obviously did and they still missed some things.
Yeah it’s possible, any game can release any expansion or whatever they want without any beta testing if they actually wanted to. It would be an astronomically stupid move though. What if mining nodes are glitched and instantly respawn and someone makes a LOAD of cash exploiting it? Well now you have to roll characters back and there is rage. What if a quest is glitched and gives you 4 levels of xp? Well now you have to roll characters back again and there is even more rage. What if the Defias quest is glitched and when you turn in a part of the chain the quest giver won’t accept your turn in so you can’t proceed. Well now everyone can’t do that quest and have to wait until they fix it and forget about it. Having all these bugs just pop up left and right on your brand new game gives you a bad image and a lot of people would rage and say “I don’t want to play this buggy trash”. And don’t act like these bugs are instantly fixed within the hour my friend… if you are lucky and I mean REALLY lucky it will be fixed in the same night more than likel it will take a couple days.
Oh and btw you should take your own words of wisdom right here.
You’re right and you know what they do to make sure that happens? They have a beta… please don’t talk so passionately about something you clearly know nothing about. You are worse than self proclaimed political scientists.
You sure love this topic. Almost as if it should have a straw poll in this thread or something.
You can assume what you wish about me but you’d be wrong, very wrong. I’m not new to alphas/betas or forum personalities. If you think I am passionate about this subject you didn’t read a word I have said.
Looks more to me that you whole heartedly believe you are right. Not only is nothing going to scratch a dent in your vision of how Blizzard must do their job but you plan on having the last word in convincing me you are correct.
So here’s one for you. How long is the typical Blizzard beta? How long before launch is the beta taken down? How long until launch?
See how that math works out for you.
Your questions are irrelevant because this wouldn’t be the average beta. Some things that would normally need testing, don’t. That doesn’t mean there is no testing needed though.
And just so we are clear, I am not assuming anything about what you know, you clearly gave me the extent of your knowledge considering you have shown me that you have zero clue about how betas work and how bugs are made/tested. Consider all assumptions confirmed.
Also, I am not trying to convince you of anything. If you choose to be uneducated and say things like “they could release the game full of bugs with no beta and be ok” then that’s your choice I am just trying to help you out so maybe next time you at least do research on how something works before you talk like you know it all.
So anyway you do you
So if sharding is in you won’t play, but if its not in you won’t play because you will be sitting in queue. Makes sense.
queue > sharding
I want a community to play the game with and not be sharded off from the community during events. The opening of a realm is an event btw. Its the race to 60 and lag is a part of that.
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Waiting in queue just to get in and have the server crash to put you back in queue was a horrible experience. This was an issue that plagued Mal’ganis during launch. I don’t want to go through that again.
Wow classics launch is going to be bigger than Wow vanillas.
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It wont be so crashing shouldn’t be an issue. No need for sharding
It’s easy to see why some of these popular topics come up continuously. There is quite a split in opinions that simply won’t be resolved until blizzard makes their final decision in the matter. Can’t please everyone. On a few subjects there seems to be a lot of indifference. I’ll up date this in the next couple days.
Most of us are at least grudgingly accepting of sharding at launch, however we don’t want blizzard to backpedal even further and have it become
“Sharding as needed For stability”
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Your comments prove you know nothing about Blizzard betas then. They have repeatedly rolled their beta and ptr clients to the live client with abundantly reported bugs unaddressed.
Funny how it keeps rolling back to exactly what I have said from the start.
It’s not about what or how a beta is or my knowledge of them. It’s about Blizzard’s track record. Part of that track record is the question you so conveniently want to call irrelevant.
Having a beta or launching on schedule? Very easy answer. Launch is way more important. But hey, if you want a short beta with Blizzard pretending to fix tester reported bugs. Then launch and fix later. Happy illusions to you. Blizzard will fix those same bugs without a beta.
As long as the launch is when they stated it would be, I remain indifferent.
Launch a game without bugs, glitches and with stability is Blizz duty. If they don’t do this they will lost more trust of yours players.
And a beta is required to find these issues and fix it.
Just got done with my voting.
Thank you.
Are you trolling? Stop yourself before it gets any worse…
Due to my playstyle (non-pvp, non-raid, asocial, etc) the only poll relevant to me was warrior threat, which is absolutely critical to maintaining the importance of crowd control and all downstream systems (which is a LOT).
The Tauren hitbox is only relevant when first adjusting to it, if it’s the cat range issue i suspect it is.
Majority seem to want pre 1.12 threat - 51.5%. While 29.4% think 1.12 threat is fine. 19.1% of votes didn’t care either way though. 68 total votes so far.
The sharding results do not surprise me in the least.