M+ S1-S2 Side-by-Side

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The impression I got was that it was 10% now instead of 12%. It wasn’t super clear. It’s like they forgot they were going to have it be 12%.

" At Mythic 12, instead of an additional 10% increase to enemy health, Xal’atath’s Guile will now include the increased timer penalty for deaths that was formerly part of Challenger’s Peril, as a replacement for the rotating Bargain affixes. While the mechanic could feel overly punishing for groups still learning and progressing towards gear rewards, a focus on clean execution remains appropriate for the upper echelons of the system, and removing the extra 10% stats should make the transition into the prestige tiers of the system feel like less of a wall."

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the top 2% rejoices. it is meaningless for 98% of the players.

but if the death penalty (peril) is gone, I am all for it.

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Considering next seasons 12’s are becoming easier than current seasons 9’s I guess it’s the top 10-20% that can enjoy it, if they choose to go that far.

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44

Nothing below a 12 needs help with depletions as it’s part of the power track. They also massively nerfed those key levels.

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It’s clearly not if you look at S1. You seem to have forgotten about their redesign of Guile.

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No, they were removing the added +10% and replacing the base tuning to 12%.

It’s not really a redesign if they just tune the number from 10% to 12%.

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i know quite a few very capable people who did the same. they just didn’t see the point. more incentives are definitely welcome!

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48

That’s unfortunate. Was hoping they would make it more exclusive to satiate the outcry of typical 2800-3k players mad over mid level rewards.

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Sure but they referenced the 10% they removed in December in favor of 12% moving forward.

So they’re referencing what it was before they made it 12%. Which is about as clear as mud.

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More io to flex in GD! “My score is higher so i know more!”

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51

You’re supposed to buy carries.

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52

Same - I just stuck on 10s for the same reason. Looking forward to having incentives to actually push higher.

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53

M0s will give champion too

54

I was wrong, looking at the notes closer they did specify that the +7% was specifically for +2-10 only and still +10% onwards with the removal of the additional guile completely.

55

Eww…

Well, into 35+ keys we go this season

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Good luck with that. It ain’t happening.

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I usually do the carrying :frowning:

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  • From Mythic 2 through 10, each new level will now increase the health and damage of enemies by 7%, down from the previous 10%. Per-level scaling will remain at 10% for Mythic 11 onwards.

Yeah so it looks like they scrapped the “redesigned Guile” completely which is why I was confused by the numbers.

It’s going to be wild now that S2 +15s are going to be S1 +12s.

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59

Their numbers do not seem to include affixes and are merely the base bonuses at each key level, hence why their season 1 numbers are a flat 10% increase at all key levels.

Key S1 Bonuses Total ∆ S2 Bonuses Total ∆
2 10% 110% 10% 7% 107% 7%
3 21% 121% 10% 14% 114% 7%
4 33% 133% 10% 23% 123% 8% <-overtuned pls nerf
5 46% 146% 10% 31% 131% 7%
6 61% 161% 10% 40% 140% 7%
7 77% 177% 10% 50% 150% 7%
8 95% 195% 10% 61% 161% 7%
9 114% 214% 10% 72% 172% 7%
10 136% 236% 10% 84% 184% 7%
11 159% 259% 10% 102% 202% 10%
12 185% 285% 10% 122% 222% 10%
13 214% 314% 10% 144% 244% 10%
14 245% 345% 10% 169% 269% 10%
15 280% 380% 10% 195% 295% 10%
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Too be fair it’ll just be inflated m+ rating that’s the problem, we’re creeping back towards the 1-20 key range.
3k will be the new 2.5k, and titles will be above 4k rating.

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