M+ S1-S2 Side-by-Side

With S2 +15s being this season’s +12 with Guile, it already is.

Agreed, I just didn’t dare to outright state it as I haven’t done the numbers for keys higher than presented in the chart.

I mean we can do the math now:

Key S1 S2
15 +280% +195%
16 +318% +225%
17 +360% +257%
18 +406% +293%
19 +456% +332%
20 +512% +375%

Thanks. So season 2 20s are pretty much s1 17s then.

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Yeah seems like it, so not quite there yet lol

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these changes are honestly bad for the m+ pushers … challengers peril made it so it was much harder for people who were not capable of higher keys to get into them. you could still time any key with 10-15 deaths. if you are dying more than that you shouldn’t be moving forward… i thought the goal this xpac was to make m+ an actual challenge for people? You are being rewarded mythic level gear in your vault for +10 , so I feel you should have to be a mythic raid competent player to achieve. As always people cry because they want their participation trophy for a challenge mode they can’t compete in

I survived M+ Season 1 as Super Casual. No need for me to worry on Season 2 becoz it’s way easier.

back to the old ways we go… steamroll to +10s just means don’t invite people with less than a 2700 S1 io lol