do you think he cooks a mean bacon strip?
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You did miss the answer, it’s because you farmed the dungeons then you were done. You also had things like Valor vendors or Badges where you just literally bought your BiS. So it was a task where you could clearly see the finish line and map out a way to reach it.
One of the problems is the vault. Remove it and bring back Valor vendors. No more ranks on gear. Just gear. Let people farm Mythic 0 buy their BiS at a vendor and be done. Then they can do other content, gear up Alts or play other activities they enjoy.
This is a gear based game. The reason we log in is to get gear then enjoy activities with that gear. If I can never complete a build or get my BiS gear then there is no room for an Alt or other content or activities. I’m stuck doing the first part of an RPG which is gearing up and it never ends! That is where you are left unfulfilled and trying to get through the awful RNG convoluted systems in hopes of some day actually playing the game and having fun.
SL and BFA was the same, I spent several months in BFA before I got to play the game. Had to RNG my way to the gear, sockets and time it with the right week for corruption amps. Just be great if we can play the game sooner. Instead of RNG painful grinds preventing us from playing.
The gearing up process should feel good and be smooth. Literally a couple weeks for BiS. Everyone should have BiS conduits, sockets, renown and gear in 2 weeks in SL. That can’t be done due to the awful time played RNG metrics getting in the way of actually enjoying the game.
SL is an extremely incomplete game riddled by even more complex systems then BFA.
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I like M+, but even I’m inclined to agree that it’s pretty shallow if that’s all the devs expect people to do.
Legion had world content, MoP had world content, why the hell can’t BFA and SL?
Again, you are actively playing BC Classic.
Troll post confirmed.
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Since you refuse to look at any of the logic I’ve posted, HERE IT IS AGAIN LOL:
MMO content involves goals set by the players themselves. WoW gives you the basic templates for what you think you’d like to do, and the player sets goals for themselves to complete. Content is fully completable, in that how much until the player is satisfied is entirely up to YOU THE PLAYER.
Example, I can say “I want the season 2 M+ mount.”
I can get +15s done in time for every dungeon, get my mount and decide I’m done. BOOM. Completion!
Or, “I want to get Ahead of the Curve.” I raid until I get it. BOOM. Completion.
See? You’re actually complaining about something that does not exist…
If you want a game fully on a set of rails, go play one. It’s not hard.
He said . . . he said . . .
If I don’t do Korthia . . . he’d cook brussel sprouts
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We do that now. There is no clearly defined end game state of completion - then or now. You could make Normal 10 man the threshold, or 25 Heroic. Are you claiming that if players in wrath that didn’t get full 251 gear score items were not complete? You did not get BIS from the vendor, either, only a few pieces were available. A good trinket, some armor pieces, a low-level shield. Prots definitely had to farm at least the gunship encounter in ICC for a good shield. And then were they done if they only got the 10 Norm version?
I respectfully disagree with the last sentence above. You, the player, have agency on what you want to do in game. If completing a build is now what you’re hanging your hat on - and not “completing content,” unless you’re now conflating gear to content - that, I feel, is just as grindy.
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I think the ultimate issue is that OP wants BiS gear in two weeks:
Because content should only take two weeks to complete so you can grab an alt and do it all over again because somehow that’s new content.
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The ultimate issue is the OP is trolling.
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not even 2 weeks, he wants to just BUY it
There needs to be! There was before. Please in SL point me to where the Valor vendor is? Please tell me why are there ranks on gear? It doesn’t have to be this way. Just have one Valor item you get for a Mythic no ranks. Stop the weekly vault where you are farming for BiS RNG week after week, it’s atrocious design. It’s just not comparable to how the game was.
Same for PvP just have conquest gear you get at the vendor where you don’t need any rating. Like how it was. Again take WoD for example which was the best gearing PvP expansion you got BiS gear in a week in Ashran. Great times. Just BG and get BiS
If you can’t complete a build why even play and RPG? This game at it’s core is character progression. You do content to complete your character. It isn’t complicated and the Devs are extremely detached from what the players want.
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Hopefully he doesn’t time gate the remainder of the meal. Appetizers, grilled burssel sprouts first, followed by possible RNG proc main course: titanforged, grilled prime rib or non-TF boiled tilapia.
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That seems like an awful lot of work.
You know how Blizzard sends us presents in the mail during anniversaries or in-game holidays? They should just do that with gear - except please deposit directly on toons’ bodies because opening the mail is too much work, too. A full set of BiS gear at 60. Turn heirlooms into free, account-wide BiS gear for every spec that levels up all the way from 1-59. No more gear or loot drops to worry about ever. Every reward is cosmetic or a pet or mount. Open all the titles to everyone, too.
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First, if I was actively playing TBC how does that make it a troll post? A WoW player is a WoW player and we all should be just trying to fix the game so it can be the best version of itself. Next you shouldn’t assume what a players in game activity is. Clearly I care about the game to spend this much time trying to help it. The same can’t be said for you though with baseless post that are off topic. Lets make the game better please and thanks and focus on many of the solutions in this thread.
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For me, I play an RPG like WoW because I enjoy playing defined roles in group content, watching my character get more powerful, interact with the story, the characters, other players. I like being able to group up with friends, complete content that is challenging.
I respectfully disagree with the concept of completing a gear set: anecdotal but I enjoyed the heck outta wrath and I didn’t complete all wings on 25N, let alone 25H.
There are as many content hierarchies and paths as their are players. We can complete the game in our own way today as we did back then. If you don’t feel this is attainable, that’s a genuine feeling and I hope you’re able to in TBCC and beyond! GL with grinding Shattrath faction rep and getting twin blade (if you’re dps war)
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You may find that fun, but I don’t. If you think just doing BG’s for gear is what all players want then you are mistaken.
OP plainly stated that he wants BiS gear for PvP from doing BGs for 2 weeks. “Like in WoD.”
Absolutely a troll post.
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It was not a week at the start, the conquest cap was in place like now. But after some time you could gear an alt in a week. I loved it. The new gear walls on live today is not good for anyone that like’s to play alt’s. It is just to sell tokens in the P2W scheme.
Trying to disguise a bad take as a bad joke, transparent regret 101.
WoW is pay to win and M+ sells tokens. I don’t think Blizz will change direction, because it’s all about the money for them.
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