It’s crazy to me how people think this is what “real” challenging gameplay ought to look like over the actual mechanical challenges in modern encounter design.
In season 2? What? Please show me literally any timed +15 with a full group at 370.
It’s crazy to think that people believe content that is so easy I can spend half of my time watching netflix while mindlessly thumbing buttons is better for the game and it’s environment than M+
At-least I can’t watch Orange is the new black while doing 20’s, I very much could watch Orange is the new black while doing anything that has the aforementioned described extremes of idle time and simplicity.
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Yes the main difficulty would come from bosses and random event the group is not prepared for.
20’s are the same as zeros. There is nothing new or random.
Overrated complaint and it will lead to harsh nerfs. Mages already some, pallies have been hit next already.
So… the bosses that are already in there that have more complexity and mechanics than RAID bosses did 2 Expansions ago?
Oh you mean like the RANDOM AFFIXES HAPPENING THAT CANT BE ENTIRELY PLANNED FOR, Those? You mean those, they literally fit the profile of ‘random event’
Affixes and timer says otherwise.
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Scarlet Monastary loot scaled beyond Gnomer. most ally did gnomer in the low-mid 20s. SM was pretty much the only choice for 30s.
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I mean, this isn’t true though?
Affixes, coupled with scaling and the time pressure, means that the ways players engage with M0 are very different from M20.
People were absolutely doing it for more efficient XP, not loot.
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Affixes and timers are just excuses. They are not original. This is not supposed to be an action rpg. Blizzard could get extremely creative if they wanted to.
How not?
Is that not quite literally what the game is?
They got very creative with affixes. But players, it turned out, don’t like random events that make dungeons harder.
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Pff, vanilla had creative dungeons. We need more sunken temple and BRD style dungeons with dungeon quest being all over the world again just for starters. Also attunements need to come back, and dungeon sets, man I miss dungeon sets.
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The actual fights, bosses, and encounters weren’t creative, though. The gameplay was not creative.
Literally who cares? What difference does it make?
Quite literally one of the least popular aspects to have ever been in this game.
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People already complain about this with the current megadungeon. Or, honestly worst case scenario which we are arguably in right now, hear it is “hard” and don’t even bother trying. I think the dungeon CAN be cleared by a group of people that maybe cap out at normal sark or halfway through heroic and it might take using the whole lockout going in 2 different nights, but these players are put off by all the doomers on the internet saying it is impossible and you need 460 IL to touch it.
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That’s quite literally what the game always was. Even Vanilla on launch day was an action RPG. This game was never a full traditional RPG. People are insane.
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Nah that would be arena and flight.
I can assure you that getting rid of M+ will not help the game whatsoever and I want whatever you’re smoking if you truly think it’ll help the game.
WoW will die very, VERY quickly if they get rid of M+.
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True mmo players will stay for giant dungeons that take hours and deep classes.
This one proves he’s trolling tbh.
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