M+ gilded crest and character growth is a problem

I dunno. I don’t really even know if it’s in the game or just on wowhead.

Changes are stupid. I have done 9s this season and I am 3/8M. Change back the system to DF. Keep the difficulty idc.

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Well said! I’ve been following these discussions the last few days and I agree.

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They need to do something about acquiring gilded crests or key scaling. Many people are hard-capped at 619 and are not good enough/geared enough to do +9-10 or the last 2 bosses on Heroic. Challenger’s Peril, key scaling and gilded crests are killing the player base.

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But say they lower it to +7, what about people stuck at +6? Why is that any more okay?

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At that point you could call it a skill issue. There is a disparity of skill and most people are ok as long as the spectrum that they’re in is allowed in the club.

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Haha this sums it up nicely.

Oh I agree with this so much.

I can relate with some of the issues people have, 9 is still an awkward number and right now the number of people capping vault with 10’s is almost non existent, most just do 1 per week like me or 4 at best.

Hero required gilded for the last two levels has recreated a nasty feedback loop for the lower tier mythic raiders and high tiered heroic raiders…Probably where a lot of the problems come from to be honest.

I would be perfectly fine if they dropped it to 8 but no lower than that and it would have to come with a slew of other changes as well.

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This /10char

The gear at +9/+10 drops is worse than Broodtwister/Princess/Silken Court/Ansurek loot. The last 2 bosses drop you more Gilded crests than timed a 9. +9/+10 Stonevault, Grim Batol or The Necrotic Wake are easily harder than at least three of those four bosses. +9/+10 Stonevault, Grim Batol or The Necrotic Wake is probably harder than Mythic Ulgrax or Silkran.

The current state of +9/+10 is brutally punishing and it’s way too easy to deplete a key. Gilded crests are awarded at +9 while many people are hard-capped at 619, they are not good enough/geared enough to do +9/+10. Removing Challenger’s Peril and acquiring Gilded Crests at +8 should solve many issues.

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He is a troll. He’s one of the two discordant voice in here loving this new system.

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If people are able to do a 4, they can join the BORED AT 619 club.

Should we lower gilded crests to a 4?

The only thing that might come close is 10 Stitchflesh WITHOUT spears.

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Stitchflesh you have to do the nuking way. I don’t know how it’s possible to do it safely at a high key level and not oom.

This. There are two or three regular posters who come in here pretending to love the new system to rile up the vast majority who hate it. Ignore them and the forums are much more productive places to have conversations.

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Did on a 9, week 1, without spears.

Drastically over time, but we did it!

Proof of concept exists.

9 isn’t high level key though, and gear was junk.

I do agree that ignoring everyone with a different opinion makes the forums a much more pleasant place of agreement.

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Yes but often it is the exception not the rule. I had multiple failed Necrotic Wakes this week because people did not understand that nuking him in a pug is the first and foremost strategy.

Or are people so willing to trust their healing to do 1.2 million HPS or higher over the fight, everyone rotating personals, cds and affording zero mistakes or it will likely be one shot? I was doing that much HPS in a failed 8 this week with the group not understanding that if the boss isn’t going to die by the end of his second pull down…DPS has to be good enough to keep killing his creations before the other one shows up. Two at a time for more than 10 seconds is almost suicidal.

And if you’re not worried about timer obviously that makes it better but still

/shrug

I will add you

i mean at stome point you just gotta realize that NOTHING you say to her will ever be good enough.

She’s apparently SUPER good at the game and will argue and debate anyone who wants things to be easier for the sake of the many, rather than be super hard for no reason other than to make a few no-lifers feel good about themselves.

Challenger’s Peril needs to go
Gilded crests need to start dropping at 8s like they used to
I dont care if they keep Myth Track gear off the vault until 10s (maybe that will encourage more people to try 10s)
People who dont want to do 9s and 10s should still be allowed to max out their heroic level gear.

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