Gilded Needs to drop in +7 because +8 and +9 is not enough. +8 will be thrusted by 2k5 rating players too. Gilded needs to be spread on four difficulty level ( +7 to +10 and above ) to allow players a chance to be taken in keys
What about the poor people at +4? Do we just not care about them?
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Yes, but at least if added at 8, They will make the divide between push keys and farm keys. For the GENERAL player base :
7 is currently desirable for heroic gear farm.
8 is a dead zone.
9 is very competitive as its almost more important to time the 9 then it is the 10 for just completion (and weekly progression)
I think they aimed the rewards higher due to how its not just a reward now for your character, but the entire warband gets benefits. This is why i don’t see it moving down to 7, but i think a case could be made at 8.
We cant blame the players for being very selective on the ONLY key level that matters for progression, but we can blame the system for setting it up this way.
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The amount of people saying 619 isnt good enough to do 9s is silly. People did 9s the first week in the 606-610 gear range. 619 is more than enough to time any of the dungeans at +9.
That really isn’t what the majority of people are saying, such as OP. Its not the ability to do the dungeons at that item ilevel. Its the fact you have limited progression until your into the bracket. Its the grouping that has been impacted by the design.
Its difficult to start the progression into 9 as it is the absolute most important key to push for progression, so groups are very selective.
Week over week groups get more selective and choose the higher ilevel, of course, so it snowballs.
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Well look at mr. Dark and gloomy over here…
It’s because the player who hard-capped at 619 is queueing against 624 this week and they want to farm for gilded crests/vault slots. The keys are tight (some dungeons) and hard.
619 won’t be good enough/gear enough for +9/+10 at all
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Did you have something to add to the conversation or not? What a strange thing to say. You should also look at your forum avatar and re-read yourself.
Crazy toxic for a video game. Lol
Life is short man. Relax.
Oof, contributes nothing to discussion, gives life advice on game forum, got it. Thanks bud!
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you know progresssion isnt just gear right? its skill. there is tangible progression cap for everyone. once he hit 9s is he going to complain about not being able to progress past 639 because he cant do 12s?
I can save some time and complain about the 12’s now if you would like?
All jokes aside, all i want to do is push with my capped gear to see what the max key level i can achieve is. 12 might be my limit.
I’m not sure, but i want to find out and i don’t think I’m alone one this.
Many people is hard capped at 619 and they can’t join +9/+10. +9/+10 are very highly competitive and 619 without 636 gears slot against 624-625 with multiple 636 gears. 619 is not good enough/geared enough for +9/+10.
The players at 619 have to use their own keys and they have to try to +2 chests for upgrade to +9 from +7 keys. That’s because +8 is a dead keys and no one want to do +8. That is causing them to get very frustrating with it.
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If you do it that way then yes. It’s free mythic crests for doing heroic content. You can look at it that way too tbh. That being said, I have posted before that I feel players should have a different path but I think it’s worth pointing out the elephant in the room
You don’t have to “get into” anything. Everyone started with the same +2 keystone at season’s start. The skills will indeed pay the bills… or they won’t!
Why would +8 be dead but + 7 not be dead? Isn’t it the same rewards? If I’m looking for heroic crests or gear I’m not picky about 7 or 8 it makes no difference to me. Not sure why that would be the case.
Maybe ask the guys and gals who timed the 7 if they wanted to do the 8? Exchange bnets, be social, create a network of like minded and similarly skilled players to progress with. It is an MMO after all. The social aspect is my favorite part of the game!
The elephant in the room being mythic crests being necessary to upgrade heroic gear to 13 ilevels lower than max mythic?
I would recommend using the same strategy to form groups for your own keys, and if you are as skilled as you believe you are, and deserving of the rewards and success, you will surely fit right in!
When I say “you” I’m speaking generally of course but you get my drift
I would also add that a strong player can single handedly influence the result of any key in the 2-9 range and carry the other 4. The power truly is in your hands.
There is a severe lack of self awareness where many players believe they are not the problem and that it is everyone else. I don’t think this will change any time soon but it’s worth taking a look at ones personal play and knowledge before blaming the system for ones downfalls. I personally improved greatly when I realized this was the case and stopped finding other reasons besides myself for failure. You can only control yourself - the results will come
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Because +7 gives hero track gears and it’s the same outcome as +8 except +7 is easier and quicker. +8 is a step up for vault slots but you will have enough runed crests for every gear to 619 next week. It’s pointless running +8 and it’s better to downgrade +8 to +7 10/10 times.
I’m definitely in agreement that the crest system is flawed. Again, it is very very hard for many players right now. For me to deny that would be disingenuous. Unfortunately this is the game in its current state. I do believe they will change it mid season as people are really getting gated and that’s not a good look for the game as a whole. I’m just trying to give people some light at the end of the tunnel and maybe a way to deal with it right now.