Thats what happens when you hire C students in remedial math.
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Were they not?
Feel free to correct me if thatâs not the case.
But even going back these seem to show that I was correct https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/20/
Check each season of BfA and they are always in the number one seed. I canât see their position being âas usualâ at the bottom when they clearly arenât usually at the bottom.
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And that it can be done has no bearing on if the classes are balanced.
Most people can run a mile. But that doesnât mean they can run it in 4 mintes.
The balancing this expansion is a joke. Prot pally dps is better than ret besides pure single target.
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Dont nerf the specs performing well, buff the ones that are weak.
start by making the mm 4pc turn the aimed shot instant, or uncap it.
Lmao no itâs not.
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MM is far from weak. Itâs set bonus is legit one of the best.
BM set bonus needs more help.
Tanks do seem dangerously close to the bottom of the pack. Could add them but havenât been looking at their performance up to this point and thereâs not an easy way to sort out things like pre nerf bears.
Tanks are only out damaging bad players.
or you could play a DH and make enemies take more magic damage because surv hunters donât give a fuh about phys damage increases to the point where mastery is their worst stat.
Thereâs definitely something going on in the dps community. It seems like every dos is either below me or 3-5k above me as the tank. Thereâs no in between. Set bonuses are a thing, for sure, but itâs a whole tier. Like my usual hunter I run with clocks 17-18k overalls in some dungeons. But I pug a hunter same spec, same gear, same IO, thereâs a 2/5 chance he doesnât break 13k.
The gap between people who master a spec vs people who lock down the wowhead guide is bigger than ever. Could be exponential impact issue with borrowed power, but I feel like this has been that way for a while.
Maybe we need to simplify some of the rotations.
I dont know nor do I care. Neither one is good so what does it matter?
No one cares about average damage in a +15. Every spec is able to time it. And at +15 the damage parses are skewed in favor of specs with more instantaneous aoe dps because mobs simply donât live enough for specs (like the dot specs) to put in.
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Try running actual high keys as MM.
having capped AOE that falls off on longer pulls feels horrible.
MM set would be good if it made aimed shots be instacast.
On top of that we are made of literal paper.
Nothing is more enraging than getting 1shot by stupid unavoidable raidwide damage in garbage dungeons like ToP.
Survival has insane aoe, melee kicks and can lust without losing dps, hence why they get spots in keys.
I have self respect and i will never play that meme spec, thankfully i mained a warlock my entire WoW life and switching to destro felt like a dream to me.
Not entirely accurate I grabbed a couple of hunters from area 52 you have run with and ilvls are 271 and 275 (the 275 is doing higher dps) stat weights are completely different the higher dps player has 20% less mastery than the lower dps one (so likely to be a mastery being bottom stat for the spec).
You can also see in the mythic raid the 275 is way out dpsing the 271 hunter so its likely a mix of skill and gear not just one or the other.
If you pull more than 4 targets, you go Kyrian.
Night Fae is useless past 4 targets. I wonât level Kyrian though, I refuse to do another Renown Grind. Thus, Night Fae.
I like Venthyr, but the tier set just doesnât give me any free GCDs for Kill Shots lol.
For the most part the performance is very similar for 15âs as it is for 20âs. There will be differences but were not talking about differences that would massively change the relative balance between classes.
For example:
Survival Mist +15, 25th best parse 19,328
Survival Mist +20, 25th best parse 19,558
Assassination Mist +15, 25th best parse 11,461
Assassination Mist +20, 25th best parse 11,112
Itâs almost like players that can do 20âs also go down and do some 15âs for their vault.
And what is your point with this anyways?
What is your hypothesis?
That the specs magically come into balance at +25?
Did looking at +20âs yield any new insight or conclusions about the relative performance of those two specs?
I think the point is the numbers in the OP show that every single spec can complete 20s (3k IO the requirement to get the highest achievement) if you want to push higher than that sure your going to need to start picking different specs and likely forming specific teams etc
Looking at stuff like the MDI I kind of feel the cap on M+ is more about survivability not dps this season.
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I know how brand works. As
Most hunters are Kyrian for keys is not as beneficial.
Then itâs clearly a player issue not a class issue. The issue is the hunter you rub with has probably been playing hunter for a while compared to the people fotm rerolling.
The rotations are already pretty simple.
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You claimed it was usual for them to be at the bottom? Clearly that isnât the case.
I figured as a Rogue player you perhaps knew something I didnât, but judging by your clear aggression from the start I believe I must have been mistaken.
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