And as a Monk I need to farm Crawg Tusks & Forgestorm this season.
This is, again, why we need an Iron Curtain separating them. There’s no reason why some people should have to spam something they don’t want to do, just to get some random over-performing stuff.
Another alternative would be if Blizzard could actually balance items. But we know they can’t or won’t.
Of course you’d always heard that, M+ers are the biggest complainer on the milky way.
Here’s how raider think compared to how M+ think
Chad raider : My class doesnt function if i dont have puzzlebox
Chad raid leader: Well? Then go get it?
Chad raider then proceed to get the trinket
Beta M+ers : My class lose 2% dps from raid trinket
Beta M+ leader : Well? Then go get it?
Beta M+ers : Im sorry is the game RAID TO DIE AGAIN?! Oh wow Blizzard at this point why not just delete M+ and all content and just develope content for the 0.00000001%
You see, you can’t compare anything to M+ers, they’re the biggest complainers in this game.
Yeah ofc we are, we’re the ones constantly asking for things to get nerfed because people being good at the game outside the raid is unfair to people who only want to raid.
You actually are.
When raiders see good M+ trinkets, they just get it with 0 complains.
Go tell M+ers to get raid trinkets and watch them have a meltdown.
If people quit raiding because they don’t need the loot, that means people aren’t raiding because they like raiding, they like loot.
Raiding participation has fallen off a cliff since Castle Nathria and M+ participation has only increased; last season had the most runs ever recorded in a single season so you are completely ignorant to how the player base has elected to devote its time.
Raiding is terrible, you kill the same easy bosses over and over and they only get easier every time you do it. It’s like retaking a class you got an A in.
Not sure if you saw the survey they did on here a few weeks ago but M+ was by far the most popular selection, it doubled raiding’s.
0 comeback, typical.
Sometimes a video is worth a thousand words.
That time is not this time.
Like most people, you’re missing the point.
People aren’t quitting raiding because “they don’t need the loot”. People are quitting raiding because Ion has turned it into a second job with all the chores you have to do just in order to be able to gear so you CAN raid.
If they would tune the raid around the gearing you get from the raid, there would be no problem. But after people roflstomped Emerald Nightmare with inflated M+ gear, Blizzard has tuned every raid since Nighthold on the premise that everybody is spamming M+ for gear.
It’s rather ironic to me that people complain about M+ gear. Meanwhile 12 of my 16 BiS items don’t come from M+.
10 BiS pieces from raid, 2 BiS pieces from crafted gear, and a massive 4 pieces come from M+.
M+ gear is garbage in comparison to raid gear period the end. If anything all you are doing is getting slightly ahead in main stat a little earlier. Regardless you are still going to replace 80 percent of the gear you get in them as a raider.
How M+ is too rewarding I cannot comprehend exactly knowing all this. At best you can make like two 441 pieces a week. That you will most likely just replace for raid loot.
If M+ gear is so strong why are my top 5 trinkets all from raid? Why is all my tier from raid? Why is my BiS shield, cloak, wrists, and boots all from raid?
M+ healing trinket’s are borderline not even worth using. I am using 411 trinkets from last season over 441 trinkets. That alone tells you M+ gear is terrible…
If anything raid gear is the problem. Raider’s don’t feel forced to M+. Where on the other foot people who do high keys feel forced to raid because almost all the best gear comes from it.
Forgestorm/Crawg Tusks say otherwise.
Meanwhile DPS call trinkets, Screaming Dragonscale, Rashok’s heart etc…
Puzzle Box, Blood-Spattered Scale, Unbound Changeling, etc. etc. etc.
Iron Curtain. Separate the two completely. It’s the only way.
Congratz you found one good item out of like 100 that’s decent. Guess that means all of M+ gear is good…
When in reality almost every spec in the game gets 80 percent of their BiS gear from raid.
Except no. See post right above yours for other examples. There are many more, of course.
Iron Curtain is the only answer.
World content should give Mythic quality gear anyway. It’s the WORLD of warcraft right?
I never said there isn’t any good pieces though. You just are putting words in my mouth.
I literally even said in my OP that 4 of my BiS pieces come from M+.
That still doesn’t change the fact that 80 percent of my BiS gear comes from raid.
And if 80 percent of it is from the raid. How is M+ gear so out of hand?
Are you counting tier? Because that’s not exclusive to raid.
I am, but lets say we don’t for fun. Even then the majority of BiS comes from raid.
And in the first 6 weeks it is exclusive besides vault. Which is literally RNG once a week? If you count that as a sound way to get pieces we are on two different planets.