Loyalist should be allowed

[Irma-andorhal]

Hate 2 tell u this but honestly wow is open world with 5-12 dungeons each expansion and a few raids most of the game is open world lol

[Orphais-wyrmrest-accord (Orphais)]

At the Blizzcon Q&A it was flatly stated that Sylvanas fan plotlines weren’t going to have a place and that this story arc is finished, meaning not being carried forward in any way. This doesn’t prevent you from having a headcanon or backstory, although if you aren’t on an RP realm that would be pointless.

[Zhiifang-wyrmrest-accord (Zhiifang)]

@Irma-andorhal

Fine with me I hate both horde and alliance

You going to take on both factions in that gear?

[Rawrlol-sisters-of-elune]

@Orphais-wyrmrest-accord

At the Blizzcon Q&A it was flatly stated that Sylvanas fan plotlines weren’t going to have a place and that this story arc is finished, meaning not being carried forward in any way.

This is what I was arguing. As of now that makes the PC not canonically a Sylvanas Loyalist as of now. You can head-canon yourself as a random dude that isn’t the PC I guess but shrug It looks like I got an actual answer on what the problem with the misunderstanding though…

@Kynerata-moon-guard

Because you are dealing with a known gas-lighter.

Thank you for informing me of this.

[Datorr-thrall]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

That doesn’t mean the new story won’t encompass a redemption, vindication or return to the Horde

She won’t return to the horde now, even if redeemed, either she will take the jailor’s place or die, that’s it.

Loyalists are in real delusion if they think she will return back.

[Boondock-myzrael]

@Irma-andorhal

Hate 2 tell u this but honestly wow is open world with 5-12 dungeons each expansion and a few raids most of the game is open world lol

do multiple runs though Fallout New Vegas and get back to me on open worlds. In wow there are no decisions that effect the plot, no world customization or player housing (no, WOD doesn’t count, they were generic forts) Not saying wow needs this but that’s the game it needs to be for anyone to side with a villain

[Datorr-thrall]

Loyalists should remember one thing.

For Sylvanas

Nathanos > You.

[Irma-andorhal]

Many open world don’t have housing lol also again shooter games aren’t a example to rpg worlds

[Datorr-thrall]

@Boondock-myzrael

do multiple runs though Fallout New Vegas and get back to me on open worlds. In wow there are no decisions that effect the plot, no world customization or player housing (no, WOD doesn’t count, they were generic forts) Not saying wow needs this but that’s the game it needs to be for anyone to side with a villain

I would recommend Outerworlds too.

[Oldeschool-korgath]

Always thought there should be splinter factions in WoW, like a more extreme version of bloodsail buccaneers. Would have to be serious consequences so it’s only for niche players. Like you can join Sylvanas but lose access to dungeon queues and auction house.

[Irma-andorhal]

Fine with me lol I rarely look at ah as I like to do it alone and dungeon qs are meha not a big loss

[Elenedhel-moon-guard]

But part of the raging controversies lie in the believability of that redemption or rather the lack thereof. Consider all she’s done and yet somehow, there will be forgiveness?
How many ‘leaps of logic’ and selective amnesia are we going to be paying for?

[Boondock-myzrael]

@Irma-andorhal

shooter games aren’t a example to rpg worlds

I must be misinterpreting because I am sure you are not claiming the New Vegas is a shooter game and not an rpg

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

She might be. She’d be the type to align herself with that.

And we’ve all done the quests. We know Vol’jin wasn’t lucid and was dying. He thought was a Loa speaking to him.

And we all know that every Warchief can be removed. She wasn’t a queen. She was a Warchief. So she had no “reign.” She wasn’t a ruler.

[Frelda-wyrmrest-accord]

They denounce their loyalty after she rips open a rift in reality sending thousands of souls to hell in an attempt to free an ancient evil wit the possibility to kill us all and bring ruin to the planet.

You scourge blood elves don’t belong on Horde.

[Irma-andorhal]

It isnt lol …

Okay let’s look at a classic legend of dragon or breath of Fire thats a rpg…

Now 1 with a option to be evil infamous or fable 1 has no player housing the other does or even look at the origin of RPGs DNd let’s u be evil no player housing … or even boulders gate.

You dont need any of that nonsense to have playable evil

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

She wasn’t Queen of the Horde. There is no such title there. If you want her to be Queen, then she belongs somewhere else.

It’s like Prince naming himself symbol. Only she wasn’t really protesting anything.

[Gulivar-wyrmrest-accord]

I agree, Sylvanas loyalist should be allowed to join a villains faction, though that would require a third faction.

Their ideals align with Gul’dans Demonic Horde more than Thralls. Saurfang even says himself, Thrall, Vol’jin, Garrosh they’re not the heir Blackhands legacy. Sylvanas is.

[Elenedhel-moon-guard]

No, it shows an interest in whatever story being told to be a GOOD ONE!
There is no way ever, she can be brought back as anything but a raid boss, given how Blizzard has just totally destroyed whatever credibility Sylvanas once had.
YOU may still ‘like her’, as you say; that is totally irrelevant to the STORY!
Personally, I liked Saurfang; he’s dead so I move on. I keep my shoulders off until his MURDERESS is brought to justice but that’s as far as it will go.
Personal feelings and desires aside, the story of the Horde has become too melodramatic and way too deus ex machina.

Sorry; almost forgot…
Flips hair

[Irma-andorhal]

Nop just make horde and ally a single faction since they are basically the same at every story point