Low honor is making people quit

No, you’re not the only one. The reason why this is so hard to pin down is because we were given a frankenpatch of some 2.4.3 stuff with some stuff from other patches instead. But as such, somewhere in there they seriously messed up honor calculation to the point that it’s extremely bad. Nobody who actually grinded out the gear back in the day and who has been queueing in the past few days could say with confidence “yeah this feels about right.”
It’s the people who aren’t queueing, and who likely aren’t even playing the game that are trying to gatekeep this for some asinine reason.

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Yeah there is a lot of that in WoW for some reason, not just Classic, its just a disease of this sort of game.

I’m sorry, but why should we trust people’s memory from 15 years ago? Memory is already known to be incredibly fallible.

I’m going to trust Blizzard here over people’s memory. They are the ones with access to the source material.

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This isn’t true. It has never been true.

I did rank 14 x 2 so i know what’s involved with grinding bg’s but the honor gains from this are ridiculous and something isn’t right

absolutely.
if you don’t want to paly the game you shouldn’t get rewarded for your laziness.

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Player made problem. Alliance needs players. Be part of the solution.

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Nope this a blizzard issue

If you’ve played Horde that long, then you would know Horde has almost always had queues. I played Horde for years and knew this would happen.

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Speaking of ignoring the issues, you keep saying there are plenty of ways to fix this? let’s hear them. It’s simply a numbers game, horde outnumbers alliance 3 to 1, and probably more if you just counted pvp players.

so when 3x horde queue, and 1x alliance do, the horde players only get to play every third game (simplifying things here). How is that Blizzards fault, and what’s a number of these easy solutions you seem to think exist?

Furthermore, everybody (except the ones that benefited from the glitch) are in the exact same boat, IE nobody else has pvp gear in the arena, so arena battles are still “equal”. As it was even in original BC, we rocked our T3 gear or the few better pieces available S1 and did arena.

As another poster mentioned, the rest of the game (and pvp isn’t half like you stated) horde has a lot better advantage. Tons of bodies running instances, Heroics, Raids, both guilds and pugs galore. Alliance on my realm is lucky to run an occasional H pugs, aside from a few guilds.
Horde literally owns the whole world when it come to WPVP too. They can attack anywhere and nobody engages them. World pvp objectives suck for horde though, for that reason. You try to take towers and as soon as one turns neutral you’re swarmed by horde. They aren’t even smart enough to let Alliance take it so they can then take them back for an objective. Farming and quests, lol. I’m trying to quest as Alliance and even in areas where there’s essentially a horde “area” and an alliance “area”, there are so many horde they are swarming both areas.

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I actually capped my honor after the fix, thank you very much, from scratch. So this is pretty much complaining.

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Honor rates are lower now that in pre patch…

Yes add rep vendor pvp tier pieces instead of later, horde vs horde bgs, add honor gains in skirms, or just flat increase the honor gains to make up, offer free faction changes, there are many ways to address this issue AND YES this is half of the game to me pvp and arena is one of the main reasons why i wanted to play TBC who are you to say that isn’t half of the game to me?

I disagree getting the 2 peice gloves and helm gives 35 resil it’s worth it but yes the trinket is 2.

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It’s way more fun to play the way I want to play.

Players botted in WoD and honor fell from the sky then.

Botters are lazy, that’s why they bot.

people been quitting bcc since pre patch lol
not just for honor either.

let them quit.
Remornia hungers.

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I found two old TBC SS showing honor gained.

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“The reason the queues are 50+ minutes are because not enough alliance are queueing compared to horde.”

From the OP.