let them cry whine let em quit
thye wont be missed
Honestly this is my opinion as well. I couldnât really care that the honor gain is slow, the fact that trying to enter a single battleground handcuffs you for an entire night is my real regret.
Unfortunately, unless Blizzard turns around and says itâs a bg server allocation issue we can only assume itâs population driven. However, of note, OCE bgs for Horde have 30 min+ queue times despite Alliance having equivalent if not higher population and that is to get into a full OCE bg.
So maybe they only have a limited number of servers allocated to run battleground instances and it needs to be increased. 
The old wow was diffrent was fun the new devs made it grind grind grind and its not fun
Itâs also not that bad depending on the time of day in NA.
Middle of the day during the week? Yeah, itâs 1+hr long queues.
Right now 9:51 ET on a thursday?
34 min queues for WSG, AV, AB
not that bad
Good horde babies quit and pvp realms start to get balanced again
I dunno, 34 mins during peak times is pretty bad to be honest.
A) you appear to be Horde anyway
B) it really doesnât fix it, it more than likely just sends said Horde to wPvP to get their honor, which mainly will constitute ganking and harassment.
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When enough horde quit then their queue times will go down. Sounds like a win/win.
Seems I may have been right.
You realize that was unintended and a bug, right? Again, the mistake was leaving the bug in to begin with.
How is it a Blizzard issue? Should they do something they havenât ever done in the history of the game and force players to play a specific faction? Well that would sure go over well! Blizzard canât force players to play a faction they donât want to play. I mean, look at you. You refuse to play the other faction to help the faction balance issue and just instad complain about having to put some time into getting a set of armor (that should take time to get) and complaining about queues and faction imbalances.
What do you suggest Blizzard does to fix the issue of TBC being heavily horde? I play horde and alliance both by the way.
I love how the concept of the game Horde V Alliance has fully been taken in to real life hate for each other lmao
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When were horde queues less than 30 minutes in classic?
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When were the Horde queues not a problem in classic as well?
I donât recall ever saying âitâs worse nowâ. I quit Classic after realising the queues were 30-45 mins+ for a 5 minute game of Alliance sprinting to Drek.
Iâm saying itâs no better, and that 30 minutes isnât a good queue.
Short of blizzard forcing alliance to log on and play in BGs thereâs nothing they can do about that.
Boggles my mind how people arenât seeing the connection between honor rates being so bad and thus leading to increased queue times for Horde. After playing a few BGs, people do the math and realize how long itâll take to farm a starter set of gear and they get so disincentivized after the realization that they stop queueing. When there are already fewer Alliance players queueing, having more leave due to this problem is just making the problem that much worse.
During the first few generations of ranking in Classic, rankers queueing made Horde queue times shoot up like crazy. Once that died down and there were only late generation rankers but mostly people playing for fun, queues normalized and were much more manageable. If honor rates were better, people could farm their gear out and the FOTM players only doing it for the gear would weed out and queues would normalize again.
Also to anyone saying anything along the lines of âgood let them quit, they wonât be missedâ it hurts everyone for players to quit. Having a larger pool of players queueing helps more than hurting, especially on the Alliance side.
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Iâm not entirely sure that is all the problem, OCE has a higher Alliance population along with OCE seperated queues yet still have just as bad queue times.
I wouldnât be surprised if there was also a limited instance server capacity also at play causing delays. Although important to take into consideration that itâs less than a month from release still so not everyone is at max level.
Horde stop being such whiny babies.
So much for the âdominant factionâ, you whimps canât even handle having to grind for a little bit of gear itâs actually pathetic I HOPE people like you quit OP because trash boosted tourist idiots like you that just want everything handed to them for playing should quit.
99% of players wont have anything close to bis pvp gear during first week arena, hell, the majority of players wonât have full bis for along time, this âI NEED MY FULL BIS FOR WEEK 1 ARENA OR I QUIT REEEEEâ mindset is PATHETIC, we all had the exact same amount of time to gear up.
Season 1 Arena will most likely last 6 months+, iirc S2 doesnât start until p3 which is a long time.
There is no rush, there is no reason you should feel left behind or that you need full PvP gear right away, and the most important part, IF YOU WERE A GOOD PLAYER, YOU WOULDNâT CARE REGARDLESS, a few honor pieces isnât going to make or break you or be a huge factor as to why you won/lost games.
There is also loads of insane gear from dungeons/raids that will be amazing in Arena, so really anyone complaining that honor needs to be buffed is actually just a lazy bum who doesnât want to play the game, you do intent on doing more than standing next an NPC and queuing battlegrounds, right???
Also as an Alliance player I kind of wish queues were a bit longer, would love to be able to do some gathering or random things in between bg queues, you zugs just need to actually chill and stop being such pvp brained dumbs
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measly 100? try 20⌠and thats on a lose.
tbh, you would see more ally in AV atleast if horde let them get a few towers or galv or something and horde just zugged north and won, would be a mutual benefit for both factions and people would be in AV atleast more often, and both would get better honor then the other 3 bgs.
in phase 4 till end of classic average horde queue was 5-12 minutes max for every bg including alterac valley which had the longest always
TBC pvp is terrible overall.
Id suggest changing your view on the âmetaâ of grinding them for that t4 t5 bisâŚ
A vast majority of you never played them to have fun, but for the gear, and Blizzard gave you the system you deserve.
Tldr; dont bother with pvp, youll be fine like a lot of us.
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I actually agree with the OP. After about 40 AVâs I have 18k honor. Playing ~40 BGs for a piece of âokayâ blue gear is pretty steep. The fact that the Horde have to wait for ridiculous amounts of time to farm their honor isnât good either. I agree that each side of the player base could benefit from some changes to the system. We shouldnât be able to gear instantly, but this is still extremely grindy for the base set.
INB4 âgo pveâ Iâd like to pvp this expac thx.
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So people have to wait until the expansion is essentially over before battlegrounds become reasonably playable?
That honestly makes it even more likely that as I suggested there is an issue with limitations on battleground instance server more than population, as what you suggest is that after a significant number of the player base quit (both factions), the queues became much better.