Looks Like the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur might Be Unobtainable In 9.0.1 (Part 1)

Not very well, I’m afraid.

Yesuna and a couple of others have been valiantly defending Blizzard’s decision with their usual “logic”. Even though the majority of posters are against this move, it’s highly unlikely Blizz will change anything. I’m still hoping they’ll at least replace the MCB with a non-AH mount, but we won’t know how it’ll turn out until Shadowlands. sigh

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Like I said, if the first thing that comes to mind when discussing large sums of gold is buying tokens then this mount probably wasn’t for you in the first place. It was intended for the wealthy players, not players who don’t have the gold to blow.

Amazingly enough that’s exactly where I live. If you live around a big city then you should know how bad traffic and congestion can be so you should make ample time for yourself while on your way somewhere.

My point still stands. A necessity is a need to survive. Examples of necessities would include food, shelter, medicine, water, ect. A luxury item is not a need. It’s easy to mix up our needs and wants. And no, it doesn’t count as a need just because you live x distance from a grocery store. A vehicle is still a luxury item. Anyway, this is way off topic so we should stop there.

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This has always been the problem with Yesuna
That Pandaren is from a RP server and has a good relationship with her guild and stuff, so “obviously” everyone in WoW has the same experience and must have the same experience as her.
You can’t solo a low level quest that has a boss? “Is your fault because your guild do not want to help you to clear a lvl 80 quest” < in a threat about a low level quest that was not soleable
She is out of touch with the reality that most people face… both ingame and in real life.

You do not decide what is for me or not
The point of it being prestigious for being expensive is debunked by the fact that other gold sink mounts will not go, it will officially go because it has a AH vendor attached to it and Blizzard do not want people to have it everywhere.
On the other hand, is ridiculous, Blizzard was not planning to announce its removal, people can make that gold several times in the lifetime of the expansion, they not announcing it from the beginning is a dirty and dishonest move knowing that is a beloved unique new model (so people that could have produced that much gold right now they may not be able to get it on time)

You live in US while saying that having a car is a commodity? Then you do not go to school/college/work/any-place-that-requires-you-to-be-on-time and I will even question if you even get out of your house. In this nation having a car is a needed necessity. Not having one is a challenge. How much more out of touch can you be with reality?

Be on time so you do not get fired/punished in school/miss important events/go to the hospital are needs to survive in this country unless you live less than 2 miles from all of those places… which is not the case for most people so lest be real :slight_smile:

You will go walking at night to a grocery store that is 2± miles away from your home? (Texas is high on crime just like Florida so…)
You will walk for hours to your work that is 5-18 miles from your home?
Will you have time to go to a college that is 5-10 miles from your home?
You have the need to be punctual and to be safe, having to walk for the most part would be a disability for the day to day life most Americans have to carry out.

How this relates to the topic? Simple, will you deny me the option to buy a car because in your subjectivity you consider it a luxury?
Is the same think Blizzard is doing:
“We consider that vendors confuse people, so we will make them complete 8 weekly conquest bars to unlock their pvp set”
“We consider that a 5 million gold mount with AH included will be too common even with the ongoing disinflation of the WoW economy, so we will make it twice as costly even if in fact leaving the mount in the vendor would have caused no problem whatsoever”
Subjective stuff that makes no sense being pushed as something objective…

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Nobody is denying you the option to buy a car, just as nobody is denying you the option to buy the dino mount. But if you can’t afford the Lamborghini then maybe you should stick to the something more affordable, ya know? Not everything in life, or even games, is directed at everyone.

We all don’t deserve everything equally.

There’s a difference between having things that are out of reach to the majority and changing things to keep things out of reach of the majority.

The Brutosaur should be left alone. If it stays rare, which you keep claiming it will anyway, then there’s no harm in leaving it right where it’s at. It will stay “prestigious” even if it goes up a couple more percentage points over the next couple of years.

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Not in every situation…

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Lets say that I can buy a Lamborghini, but, then the company that produce it decides to double the already high price-tag to make the car even rarer and putting it out of reach to people that could have afforded it originally. It makes no sense in a capitalist economy, is just ridiculous.

That is a fact, but the dino mount is directed to people that have 5 million gold, a amount of gold you can produce but not spend like that because there are other things to spend the gold on. So Blizzard should have announced this from day 1 of BFA so interested people gave it a priority from the beginning instead of being catch by dataminers… In shadowlands we will require 5-10M gold to get it, what was the point of removing the vendor at the end??? Only people capable of getting that much gold will get it anyways…
There is no reasonable, objective or logical reason to remove the mount and the way that it will be done is dishonest.

This is a goldsink mount, is not a pvp set/heritage set/pvp mount/achievement, gold is not prestigious as it can be acquired with 0 skill…

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You say this but I know many players in game that can’t make gold and they state they try to.

Or people who buy tokens for gold.

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I actually think it will be more interesting to see if there is a spike of Brutosaur owners closer to the deadline than now. I would think there would be more people willing to buy tokens to get over the hump before it’s gone than trying to by it outright after the announcement was made.

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Eh depends where you live. I live in a huge dense city where the buses and trains run all the time. So yeah, I don’t need a car. Though someone who lives twenty miles away from the closest town, surely does need one.

Anyway, back to topic. :smiley:

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Nah, man. Yes, it would be “off topic”–except that you equated the brutosaur with a luxury car–and then said all cars are a luxury.

I don’t need a brutosaur. That’s 100% true. I don’t need to play video games, either.

Food IS a necessity–just like you said–and food is 30 MILES from where I live. If you can’t understand how freaking far that actually is to walk for food, then you pretty much live in a bubble of your own making and there’s not much any of us can do to fix that. You sound so delusional it’s no wonder you think Blizzard’s decisions are all marvelous. :roll_eyes:

I personally feel the decision to remove the mighty caravan brutosaur from the vendors is as bad as having to walk 30 miles for food. If Blizzard at least replaced the MCB with a non-AH version, it would be like giving me a lift to the store. I would appreciate it very much. :grin:

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Well good luck. My self if they had announced what they we’re going to do at the beginning of BFA then I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

But announcing it over halfway into the expansion is a little sleazy at this point.

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This is pretty much what I’m also expecting.
I’ve been watching a lot of the gold farming communities, and there’s a ton of people flooding in trying to find ways to quickly farm this. I’ve seen a lot of people say they’re just going to buy the rest if they don’t make it. Granted, it’s anecdotal, but it is noticeable.

Even my boyfriend is saying he’ll slap down cash for tokens for me if I don’t make it because he sees the economical advantage to having this while we’re leveling. (And he’s new to the game.)

edit: I’m going to make it without buying the rest outright. Got some tokens weaving in from friends, but I’m at 4.3. Thanks for the help guys! {Still going to be doing 2x4’s and stuff for the people joining us from here once I’m done btw.}

Because they never post things on the AH or do content. The amount of passive gold you can make just selling materials on the AH as you go is pretty significant. Not 5 million gold significant, but I’ll never understand how people “don’t have gold” when it’s literally handed to you.

I just made 6k gold off of doing some world quests and got gilded cloth drops.
Like, what are these people doing with their game time? Even BGs give chests that contain stuff you can toss up on the AH.

(Note: farming 5 million in this short of a period of time is ridiculous, I’m just always confused when people say it’s hard to make gold.)

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Nope, they didn’t.

Technically, no. But they did kind of create the necessity for them by using 3rd party sites to purchase gold, which caused account hacking and other such things. If players never purchased told to begin with, I doubt Tokens would have become a thing at all.

True.

There have been “expensive carrots dangling” since November 2004. This didn’t create the need for tokens (in my opinion).

I’m not sure who you were responding to, but I believe it was the “Players created this problem by purchasing in-game mounts with real money through tokens” comment. And while I do actually agree with you that blaming players for Blizzard’s bad decisions to remove things from the game “because reasons” is pretty silly, I don’t think they are “praying on the weak”. Of course, I don’t think that the average person is going to waste money on tokens to buy pixels either (although I am aware of “whaling” and that there are people who will spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on games like Candy Crush and Bubble Witch Saga…I don’t think it’s the norm in this situation).

Nor do I.

Okay… My company takes the Admin Department on an annual trip to Coushatta Casino and gives us ~$350 to gamble with. I don’t mind gambling away their money, and most years I come home with that plus a little winnings. I don’t gamble with my own money though. :slight_smile:

cool remove your gold sink mount, so we can use our money to screw your market more instead

“Don’t have gold” I think is contextual. Of course people can afford flight paths, buying materials off of vendors, etc. The phrase kind of loses context when talking about, outside of rare AH mounts, the most expensive item offered in the game.

If you started from scratch at the time of the announcement, and assuming a December 2020 release date for Shadowlands and the mount going away (although it will probably be sooner with a pre-patch drop), the nearly 13,700 gold per day is a large hurdle to climb.

And much as people tout the AH, which can obviously be a good source of income, it requires time and buyers for it to work in your favor. At the end of the expansion and a shrinking playerbase, this might be one of the hardest times to make that work out in your favor from scratch. It’s also hard when you have more sellers than usual who also are trying to save up.

For me, I unfortunately missed the WoD gold making train when it was current. I also bought a lot of tokens at the time to save myself subscription money. In hindsight, I would’ve done things differently if I knew that gold inflation would lead to cool items to buy with gold available for a limited time.

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You’re… literally ignoring the complete last part of my post.

Are they going to let people who don’t ask for a Warcraft III Reforged refund still buy the mount? LOL

There are many raw gold farms, where you create that gold directly (without the AH) but most of them give you 8000± gold per hour so it would take you 625 hours total of farm for the mount… If you want the mount you can try those farms 5 hours a day for the next 4 months and done (search “raw gold farm” because I will not spoil my method so Blizz can nerf it xD) if it is a direct method (crafting), if it is a dungeon/raid farm it could take you more and depend on how many alts you have.