LMAO. People who need 300% speed and the ability to pass over everything lecturing others about self control.
If you like to fly so much, play in content where you can fly. Simple.
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You’re right, it is efficient. This is why flying is in the game and has been since 2007. Blizzard want their players to be efficient when going about their limited time in the game people are paying to play for.
This is a false equivalence. And the majority of players would be more concerned about this as opposed to flying.
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Me choosing to fly has nothing to do with self-control, you simp. And neither does navigating $#!7 terrain.
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True, but I think by that time the poorer design philosophy had become the norm.
Nah, people can’t stop themselves from flying therefore they want to remove everyone’s option to fly. It makes no sense.
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Fair enough. 
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The point kf your post is either
- Sunday troll thread
Or - To trash people that like flying
No middle ground it’s obvious from your comment here
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anyone else hear the B52’s Roam ?
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It would be acceptable if that talent doesn’t affect whether or not you get invited into groups or whether or not you can do well at PVP/PVE.
The fact that some people are ok at doing world content without flight suggests flight is not a factor for them in determining whether they do well at world content.
And flight has no effect on group content.
So “just don’t use it” is acceptable for flight even if it may not be acceptable for a particularly strong talent.
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To the original poster. Only thing I would say to you is that you don’t have to fly. I don’t agree with your opinion but I respect your right to have it and As such you can go about the game on foot or on a ground mount.
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Flying ruined the game back in cata. Even that started as a confusing decisions in wotlk. Flying in TBC was fine because it was only in outland, which itself was a world away from azeroth. It was super convenient, but still felt separate from half the game. Seeing full xpac flying return in wotlk was weird. For that xpac, limiting flying to icecrowne and storm peaks would have made sense, but instead we could fly through all of Northrend. We really started to see the “main city hub for both factions” gameplay emerge in that xpac, LFG played a big part in that as well. I’ll say with zero hesitation that the northrend ground was scarcely populated because of flying.
When cata effectively erased vanilla and replaced it with flying in azeroth, the world died more than a little. Flying in every WoW zone combined wth LFG and LFR meant that WoW stopped being a populated world and became a game of hubs filled with teleporting and flying players.
Most people will blame cata for the flying problem, but flying was a problem back in wotlk. I will blame cata though for killing the game. There’s more to WoW than class balance and tight mechanics, and that extra bit is the social dynamics that died in cata.
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Don’t get me wrong, I am currently really enjoying playing a new character through Elwynn woods.
I am taking my time to fully appreciate the world.
I would hope that when I get to the point where I can buy flying skill, I can just skip it. I don’t know if I can hold out though. the temptation to get to destinations quicker is a very strong one. as the Goblins keep telling us, “Time is money friend”.
I also regret that when I get to later zones in the game, I will never be impressed by seeing people in hard to reach places and will hardly feel inspired to attempt climbing something.
I suppose Goldshire is just magical place.
I do think the game could be improved a lot by giving 300% land speed instead of being so slow on the ground and only have speed while flying.
or something like that world quest in azsuna where you speed up while running without stopping.
I enjoyed that too before I got flying. Then I got flying and I can still do it if I want to, which I do occasionally, even though I have flying. I like having that choice and I like that you get it too, OP.
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To ability to unlock flying and to fly in Battle for Azeroth kept me subscribed. I hated traversing anything in Zuldazar by foot. Talk about unfriendly navigation, it was an absolute nightmare. Especially for Alliance to do World quests in the city.
So, I disagree, flying makes me want to play longer.
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I played Rift and never thought I needed flying there. The difference being movement speed was never an issue. Ground mounts were fast and the teleport system was faster. I never felt like they were trying to waste my time with travel. Alt-tabbing to watch a YouTube video never occurred, unlike in WoW.
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They weren’t responding directly to your post, more just making an observation about the con-flyers.
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“Roam if you want to, roam around the world. Roam if you want toooo…without wings, without wheels”
Now this is playing in my head lol
To me this is a product of the design of how we acquire flying, and the lack of meaningful reward outside of it, honestly.
The thing is… I don’t think you’re wrong per se. Once I got flying I stopped paying attention to the reputations unless they had an emissary that I wanted. The same thing happened in Legion, as well.
The problem I have is that I don’t think I lost interest in those things because they were somehow worse now that I could fly. I didn’t really have an interest in those things for their own sake to begin with, and getting flying was why I was doing them. I don’t care for the daily emissary if it doesn’t have anything for me. Even when Pathfinder Part 2 came out I had to go back and shore up one of the reps because I ignored it even though I knew I’d need it.
Flying requires you to do a whole boat load of world content to unlock it. You have to “complete” the world content to a certain degree. It’s no wonder you feel disinterested in that content once you’ve unlocked flying. It’s like playing a game that gives you a new vehicle to explore the world but only after you’ve explored the world. Like Breath of the Wild giving you a motorcycle after you’ve completed all 120 trials plus the bonus trials from the DLC. I just wasn’t interested in riding around on a motorcycle in a world that I was mostly done with.
Reputations don’t give meaningful gear of their own. They don’t give meaningful mounts or toys (that aren’t ridiculously overpriced and one-time-purchased). Once you’re exalted you can buy whatever you want and then… you only need to do them when there’s an emissary you want. Of course you’re going to feel like there’s not much left to do out there; everything you could work towards has already been had and now it’s just piecemeal RNG and a slow pace.
The whole point of releasing flying as late as they do is so that it’s not really worth having for most of us. Who cares if you get flying after you’ve done all the stuff you’d want to do? Even better if it makes it feel, psychologically, like flying is the reason it all feels worse; then you’re blaming flying and not a genuine lack of over world innovation.
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Flying comes at the tail end of having done most of the world content. You’re not wrong that there’s not a lot left to do, it’s all just piecemeal emissaries if there’s something good.
That’s not because flying made the world less interesting. It’s because all the things you had to do to get flying were the interesting things to do. Now you’re left with emissaries and maybe something you want off a rando world quest.
You’re not wrong, it is true, and it’s intentionally designed that way. The amount of things worth doing after you have flying suddenly plummet because you’ve either completed the reputation grind, acquired the reward you were working towards (flying), or have largely run out of stuff of value out there.
TL:DR
You were right to feel that way, you were not wrong. It’s not because flying ruined it, though. It’s because the over world only has a set list of things to do that’s interesting. Getting flying requires checking almost every box off the list. All you’re left with is the leftovers that rarely provide much of interest on your main character.
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Do you know what that word means? Because it’s not in context, here. You can’t “Debunk” a simple fact.
False. The con-flyers have stated that they don’t…obviously.
Huh?
lol What?
How is it “overpowered”? And compared to…the ground or water? Nothing you said made any sense.
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Then you value efficiency over what you claim is fun. You should be pro flying if you want efficiency.