Locking stable flying but not skyriding to pathfinder is stupid

That was mostly choice of words. Stay away from stuff like ‘forced’ when you are talking personal preference.
The forums are very literal.

Opinions are okay :ok_hand:

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Must be nice not to have movement impairments that affect your hand, vision impairments, or motion sickness.

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BlizZard forcing collective punishment of players that can only use TBC normal flying and locking it behind PF is not right morally or ethically.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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Yeah it’s like having a total lack of human empathy is bad enough but then to come in here and like advertise it publicly really is seriously …well I’ll leave it at that

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Ok, it’s not even an opinion that I’m being given options you don’t want and only those options is “force”.

Those of us who don’t like skyriding are given options of ground mounts, skyriding which we don’t like, or no mount. 100%, 800% or 0%

There is a clear obvious choice they want us to make. But those of us who almost exclusively use steady are being forced to choose an option we don’t want. To your point though, at least there ARE options yes. But since none of them are a way that fits how we have played the game we are being forced to make a decision. That’s not an opinion. That’s fact. Especially since one of those options is paramount to being able to complete the expansion without going full South Park

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They also might want to avoid words like punished, as well as using the speed of the ground mounts as a basis for how fast one can ear steady flight.as Sky riding is 830% on the isles, 705% in the old world and Khaz Algar, Blizzard can always adjust the speed up or down though.

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How does one go about making a suggestion? I got a brain full of stuff I want to say. Lol.

For those who are unable to dragonride/skyride due to motion sickness or other physical limitations you will be able to complete the leveling campaign without using flying. Quests that take you into different zones/would otherwise require Skyriding will have an NPC that will taxi you to the area you need to go so you don’t have to Skyride. This is on the beta right now.

I do not have any horse in this race of TBC Flight vs Skyriding. Just offering information.

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All due respect, but:

  1. Yes it is, and

  2. if I had such a situation, I probably wouldn’t play wow :dracthyr_shrug:

People who don’t like being uncomfortable don’t ride roller coasters. It’s just that simple.

The amount of video games and different operating systems that provide the experience any given user is looking for in the modern day is insane. Find the one that is properly tailored to you. A PC game is not going to be one.

You need to use a mouse and you need to use the keyboard simultaneously. If you can’t, then wow isn’t for you. Sorry, but that’s how the world works.

Also, let’s not pretend you’re approaching this dialogue with the intent of posting in good faith.

Dynamic is variable. Max is 800%. But you can go much slower than static.

It’s a choice. There are 2 forks in the road. You don’t want to go left, so you are “forced” to go right.

I still use the example of static has pretty much always been locked. Either by pathfinder or gold gating.
If anything you get the extra option to dynamic fly day 1.

But that’s also glass half full vs half empty perspective.

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Make them. Just don’t harass/belittle people or spam topics.
Lio on the other hand, is the top poster in all of these pathfinder threads by A LOT.
And if you scroll through, most are very aggressive towards anyone they disagree with or saying the same thing on almost copy/paste.

Blizzard wants suggestions and opinions, not spam.

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I think there is still time to see if Blizz will act on the message we’re posting.
I understand they’ve tried to make it workable for those who find dragonriding difficult or impossible.
Yet that’s not what’s at issue here.
It seems unfair to hold one type of flying to a different standard when there are people who clearly have problems with it.
But I believe alot of other people here have explained it better than I could.
I just wish everyone would less vitriolic and aggressive on the discussion.

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Is it really that unfair when they see the different types as, well, different and they have have, in your own words,

People keep saying “flight is flight” but not all flight, even in RL, is the same.

I could see that, if the arguments did not keep getting lost due to the language used.

It’s a good thing you don’t run things at Blizzard. They do consider accessibility concerns and have added new features. They’re not like, "dude, you have accessibility issues, p*ss off, WOW is not for you…

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LOL!!! :rofl: I love you man, that statement is cracking me up !!!

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The great irony of this dialogue is most people on your side of the fence are just posting in bad faith.

Look, people who can’t run don’t play soccer. It’s not soccer’s responsibility to cater to people who can’t run because people who can’t run understand that soccer just isn’t the right option for them.

It’s no different.

Don’t play a pc game that requires the use of a mouse and a keyboard if you can’t operate a mouse and a keyboard.

Don’t operate heavy machinery if you can’t operate heavy machinery.

No one is the wrong for saying this.

Now more than ever, there’s a game for everyone!

Play the game that best suits you. The game isn’t required to tailor to you. You’re required to find the game that fits you.

That’s what is happening with my druid. When I am in flight form and need to change from one flight speed to another, it knocks me out of my flight form… so now it is more than 5 seconds as people claim, at least, for druids that is.

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It’s not punishment if you’re choosing not to use the tools in front of you.

“I don’t want to use a drill! I want to use a screwdriver and have it be the same speed as a drill”

Ridiculous comment

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They fully understand what you mean by ‘force’. Its literally sealioning. If you dont know what that is, google it…you’ll see that this entire thread is FULL of that.

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Did anyone actually say they could not use a keyboard and mouse? I was recently in a 2k+ thread talking about these kinds of issues. I read that entire thread and there were plenty of people explaining their disability and the game, none complained they couldn’t use the keyboard and mouse and expected Blizzard to make the game playable.

It gets old when people create false arguments…

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