Locking stable flying but not skyriding to pathfinder is stupid

You also aren’t using words like “forced” though.
So it’s a bit different.

Why can’t you glide with dynamic? You have yet to mention this. It’s slower than static.

I am confused how you are being punished if you flat refuse to use dynamic at all, even to glide down a cliff or just mash space bar to go up.

Listen, I don’t care if something has a rocket, a feather, or shot from a sling shot, if it moves threw the air, its flying while moving threw the air. This argument that one is flying while the other is not is stupid, both ways is flying period.

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  1. they DO understand.
  2. Keeping you repeating yourself is precisely the point here.

It becomes clear about the 700th time theyve pretended they missed your point.

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I mean, not really. If you don’t do anything in the open world, it doesn’t matter. World quests and such have been tied to completing the campaign anyway, so you miss out on nothing by not unlocking steady flight. This is such a non-issue.

Choosing to play with a ground mount, as you have stated you are choosing to do, is not a punishment. If I choose to go to Taco Bell, when I do not enjoy Taco Bell, that does not mean that I was punished.

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Wait. They brought in extra speed but it requires more gameplay. ie you do more you get more. You are saying it is a nerf because old flying didn’t get a buff in speed?

Sorry I just don’t think that is a nerf. They added something new that you can use or not…that is up to you. Your decision makes that happen. They left old style flying basically where it always was…locked behind some quests at end of leveling/campaign…they made it earlier than normal.

The idea someone else gets something for doing new content that you don’t get is a nerf, is just not right. You may as well say all non mythic raiders got nerfed because they can’t get the best gear. That is just not a nerf. It’s a choice.

Fine. I’ll CHOOSE to use the feature I hate and stop in every day to b**** in your ear about how awful the mechanic is.

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Well, it might be self-inflicted punishment, if the reason you don’t like it is because of some of the affects of it.

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We can listen or choose to block you. Choice is good.

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i do gathering and steady is better for quick trips instead of using the asthma dragon that has to catch its breath

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This would be a good solution. It would also be a strange thing for them to do, given they already have another system that works well for disabled/otherwise limited people that would require no additional development time or cost - steady flying. From a business standpoint, wouldn’t it make more sense to minimize the development costs here?

The big problem with this argument is that it looks to me like pathfinder isn’t going to slow anyone down at all if they’re using skyriding, since it is faster than normal flying. It literally does nothing at all except inconvenience people who prefer steady flying. Can you explain how pathfinder is going to slow down anyone who is using skyriding? I just don’t see it.

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Skyriding might be more of a hassle then it is worth, like it might have the speed, but how good is speed if you keep overshooting your target and having to backtrack, or running out of vigor often.

As far as your development cost question, it would make more sense UNLESS they were trying to push one form as the new thing, I.E. skyriding.

I know. I truly sucked at Dragonriding when I came back to the game, so spent a lot of time slowly falling out of the sky :joy::joy: learning how to use the system didn’t make it any more fun and actively worked against me. If I don’t know exactly where I need to land then I have to do another lap to make the landing point. Or accidentally land somewhere I don’t want to be and have to fight my way to the quest turn in/pick up anyway. And now we have to use it underground. So the already difficult to control mechanics are going to be even more difficult in an enclosed space.

But, hey I’m sorry, I didn’t see you had asked me a question.

I had that some at the very beginning when I was still learning dragon riding. It doesn’t really happen to me any more.

Do we know if they’re going to take all our sky riding abilities away and make us relearn them for TWW? That would slow people down some.

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If you can, get online and look at the skills and unlocks, what we have there is what we will have in TWW outside of what they made baseline.

It’s good. Have you tried doing the races? It taught me a lot of control.
Now I fly under bridges at max speed just cus why not lol.
Granted some struggle to mouse control.

It took my friend a few patches to figure out you don’t mash surge forward.

And tbh the best way to get vigor and maintain speed is don’t surge forward. You skyward ascend by flicking your mouse up then leveling it back out. So it ACTS like surge forward, but gives you longer forward momentum.

From what I’ve seen, it’s supposed to look like the outside world. Its supposed to be wide open. They designed the zone with dynamic flight in mind.

So to me, I picture zaralek caverns.

At the top right, you’ll see your characters portrait. If you click on it and scroll to the bottom. You’ll see ‘change character’.

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I find goblin gliders more engaging to be honest. But TBC flying is more fun.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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I love you for so eloquently articulating the egregious actions of the Blizzard Entertainment developers regarding stead-flight vs dragonriding (or what ever they’re calling it this week).

Personally, I not only continue to experience motion sickness WITH all the doo-dads set to prevent such a thing when using dragonf flying but I also get very stressed out, waives of terror, optic migrains and heart palpitations. ALL of those experiences ruins any fun I might have had in the game. Its disgusting that they’re forcing players who cannot tolerate dragonriding to perform yet another stupid Pathfinder achievement before they can use Steady-flight, which is something they NEED in order to enjoy the game they PAY for!

It’s like as if you go to a fast-food place for a burger, and they make you go out back to kill a cow, butcher it, then grind the meat for your burger patty. Insane!

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Of course it’s Blizz’s problem as long as there are enough of us speaking out.

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At least we gets ground mounts and the ability to earn PF at 1/8th the speed of everyone else? At least that’s what they will tell you.

Stop complaining you still have an option.

To be clear, I’m with you. I shouldn’t have to use skyriding or be stuck to the ground. I’m just warming you up for what they’ve already done to me

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And we have a lot of energy and a lot to talk about.

TBC normal flying is more than a mode of transportation for thousands and thousands of players!

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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