I like how “forced” means “choosing not to use something because of a personal preference” in this context.
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But I have to play the game at 1/8th the pace of everyone else. I’m being punished because I don’t like a feature of the game. So you get to power through the game and get strong while me and a decent amount of other players have to play extremely slow or use a feature we hate.
That’s where the unfairness comes in. That’s where the lack of sense is. Blizzard is punishing its players for not liking a new feature. That’s all it is. Yes we have an option. But everyone else has a much much better option. Even with steady you still get strong twice as fast as I do, so it doesn’t affect you at all. 0% not even .0001% literally 0% affect on you. It’s the others that are getting punished so of course you wouldn’t have an issue with the design.
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You’re literally defining force.
I didn’t want to sleep with my boss but I need a raise because my bills got more expansive.
This is an extreme example yes, but it’s the same thing. I don’t want to use skyriding, but I have to if I want to keep up with the community
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You are using words like “punish” “forced” and “have to” when, in fact, they do not apply. Firstly, I don’t know what you are rushing for, you can’t even do a Mythic zero for the first two or three weeks I believe it is, so nobody is going to be “getting strong” in a way that will matter past the first day where heroic dungeons are added to rdf. Secondly, you are entirely able to stay grounded and unlock steady flight, and you are actively choosing to stay grounded over using skyriding. There is no punishment, you are making a choice and then complaining about your own decision.
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Literaly doesnt affect ANY of them at all…another reason to know that some are just arguing to hear themselves argue.
https://imgur.com/cUcDCq6
PF today is NOT about
- Wpvp
- Botting
- Exploration
…plain and simple.
PF today serves ZERO purpose and only targets players who have trouble with Skyriding…who are VERY small part of the community as stated by that side of this many times going back to threads in early DF on this same topic.
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You don’t have to fly at max speed. You have to surge forward 2-3 times depending on what you are doing to max speed. You can just slow fly with it as well.
It’s not an all or nothing kind of flying like static is.
You can actually fly SLOWER than static if you wanted too.
Abstaining due to personal reasons is not forced.
It would be that there is no ground, the map is purely in the sky and you HAVE to use flying and the only mode is dynamic.
That would be forced. That’s why they pointed out the wrong use of forced.
At least that is just a misconception. Look at this nonsense…
Like holy reach.
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Regardless though. My options are use a system I don’t like or play the game at 1/8th the pace and hope I can complete the expansion before the next one comes out.
Of course all of you who like skyriding don’t have a problem here because it doesn’t affect you and you get to be strong super fast. You’re defending an argument that has 0 impact on your gameplay.
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Do you know this for certain, as in Blizzard has stated this explicitly? Weren’t there parts of Dragonflight where dragonriding was required to complete the campaign?
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chorefinder is there for pure spite reasons we revolted when in tables of dranor when they didnt want to add flying back to the game. they can mask it with excuses but its pure spite to the players
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Those quests have been given a steady flight option when they come up, as was seen in the emerald dream.
You are describing the leveling campaign as a chore. Literally doing something once, the main story of the new expansion mind you, as a chore. Not a rep grind, not a daily quest grind or the weekly soup event or something. The leveling campaign.
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the dragon riding quests to GET DRing were part of the main questline…so yeah…seems like it.
As are you.
Like I said. You CAN use dynamic and not fly at max speed. You can glide from point to point.
And from what Ive heard from others that have used ground mounts. The points are so close to each other, flight only speeds up leveling just slightly.
So saying stuff like is silly.
Even fully grounded, you’ll be done in a week MAX.
Mop had so many more quests and zones and that was done in 3-4 days by most FULLY grounded.
Wod as well.
Oh legion too.
Yes. No quest requires dynamic. Some have segments where there is dynamic, but there is also a taxi to just auto complete it.
And the map is fully ground accessible.
So playing the game 1/8th the pace of everyone else isn’t punishment? Again, my choices are use a system I don’t want to or just not ever have a chance at being involved in current content at all. Since I don’t have much time a week to play. Playing at 1/8th your pace is a slap in the face to the players who don’t like that system.
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shouldnt we want to do it organically? because of chorefinder im going to rush through asap to spite blizzard and not read a single quest accept do than turn in. having steady and dragonriding on day 1 both there hurts nobody
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No, you choosing to use a ground mount isn’t a punishment. Also, you do not need to use a flying mount of any variety to be involved in heroic dungeons, which is the peak of what is available during the initial weeks of the expansion.
Uhh… Sure, you are welcome to not read the quests.
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They have made it the fastest it has ever been, they have made it so it can be completed by everyone, they have made all these concessions for different people. The only argument I have been seeing against it, outside of the disabled one, is “Blizzard is not letting me use my preferred style from the get go.”
As far as disabled goes, I am more then willing to discuss more ways for them to handle skyriding, like an auto pilot set up using the map pin system Or a way for them to get steady flight faster/from the start.
Another factor is Blizzard, as a business, also has to make some choices that might not make sense from a logical stand point for some, but do from a more business oriented logic. Blizzards favorite customers are those that buy the sub and quite playing without canceling the sub or those they feel they can hook by locking things behind limited time or takes a while to get. Guess which one pathfinder falls into, technically speaking as it is still faster then it was before.
As a not to some, I have early access, so even though I am willingly ground bound, I could still have steady flight before a lot of those that decide to earn it via skyriding excpetion being thes ones with early access that choose that path.
Irony time?
When you tell the group who hates flight …“just choose not to fly then”…theyll respond that using ground mounts HINDERS their ability to “Keep up” with flying players.
I got money on some of THAT group literally being some of THIS group in here right now…lol…meaning they wont CHOOSE to ground hoof it if they hate flight entirely and prefer it be removed…but they will tell YOU to cope with being hindered on ground mounts yourself while everyone else is flyng, lol
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion on which mode of travel is the most immersive. Luckily the only thing that matters is which one is the most enjoyable. And my enjoyment is not tied to your opinion.
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btw i dont really quest normally i dungeon grind to cap. so im forced to quest for a feature no choice in the matter zero
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Y’all just truly don’t understand. I’m not going to keep repeating myself.
Players who don’t like skyriding are being punished and made to play at 1/8th the speed of everyone else. Simply because we don’t like a certain system we are nerfed. At least give me WoD Remix so I can play something good for the time being…
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