Locking stable flying but not skyriding to pathfinder is stupid

[Aeshma-khadgar]

I am not getting a message that Blizzard wants tbc flight to end, but more they want skyriding to shine.

[Miaare-the-scryers]

Read again, they removed the requirements for dynamic flying, not TBC flying, so yes, they are still showing their disdain for TBC flying, if they had removed the requirements for both you would have a point, but they didn’t.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

@Miaare-the-scryers

they choose to stubbornly dig in their heels, and try to make people use it in the hopes that players either accept it, or quit.

I’m not sure I would say that removing the nearly year-long time gate waiting for patch x.2 to allow for the completion of pathfinder as “digging in their heels”.

Seems like allowing the unlock to be available day 1 of launch would be the exact opposite of digging in their heels.

Digging in their heels would be to keep the ~year long timegate, no?

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

@Miaare-the-scryers

Read again, they removed the requirements for dynamic flying

@Kaivax

Pathfinder requirements for Skyriding have been removed from Battle for Azeroth and Shadowlands zones

… perhaps you should read what you quoted. It literally says skyriding. Which is different from dynamic riding.

[Aeshma-khadgar]

No, they are the same. Old flight is steady flight and tbc flight.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

Skyriding (f.k.a. Dragonriding) is the same thing as Dynamic Flight. Skyriding is just the current marketing term.

[Catelan-aerie-peak (Catelan)]

@Dakine-bleeding-hollow

The whole thing is absolute garbage and it’s not fun to play

I agree, and for many player its nauseating & physically painful to use Sky-riding. Blizzard apparently could give a rats furry crack what players need - ergo, another Pathfinder barrier for their “accessibility” form of flying (Stead Flight).

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

They need to pick a name already lol

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

Just like you and others give a rat’s furry crack about things Blizzard have done if it is not what YOU want.

Do I think steady should be avalable from the start for those with issues with DR? Yes, but I see being able to earn it via ground as a good enough concession if the questing phase is indeed ground mount friendly.

[Catelan-aerie-peak (Catelan)]

@Antiman-bloodhoof

Might not make as many “happy” as you think, I have a feeling most are satisfied with PF in its current form, especially if it means it could be on its last legs anyway.

That’s all good - go ahead and keep Pathfinder for thoes who enjoy the task but DO NOT use Pathfinder as a requirement to unlock Steady Flight!

Blizzard is being hypocritical by bragging how Steady Flight is an “Accessibility” feature, then they turn around and make people who NEED that “accessibility feature” to enjoy the game in which they PAY A SUBSCRIPTION.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

They need to pick a name already lol

That’s fair lol

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

@Catelan-aerie-peak

Blizzard is being hypocritical by bragging how Steady Flight is an “Accessibility” feature,

How many times must it be said: Blizzard did not say it was an accessibility feature but that it was used for Accessibility reasons

To sum it up:

1. used for accessibility reasons=feature that was put in for any reason except accessibility but is now used for such
2. accessibility feature=the reason it was put in to begin with was for accessibility

Back in TBC flight was more or less required for end game, same with Wrath, Cata had flight be more or ness required for the leveling process, MoP put it back to being required for end game content. When they tried to remove it for WoD, they had designed Draenor around not needing flight, so they likely saw it as more a convenience. Can anyone see an issue with having to earn convenience?

It really can just come down to how the world is designed, if flight is needed for end game, it can be locked for the leveling process, if it is needed for the leveling process, then all forms should be unlocked at the get go NO pathfinder, if, and this seems to be the case for TWW, flight can provide a bonus or convenience but it is without, then either both forms can be available at start, locked at start, or one available and one locked.

Also, one thing to keep in mind, the words we use make up just 7% of what we say, do we really want to judge/attack others on such a low %?

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

I could have sworn I read somewhere that they did remove it for static too.

Also they finally updated tww website. Last I checked, it still said dynamic

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

@Lovelight-sargeras

Skyriding is just the current marketing term.

The only real thing I could find, since I can’t test it myself, was a comment on the memories of the sunless sky item. Which gave flying in SL.
They edited their comment to state that as of tww prepatch, you can fly without it.

Makes sense to me since its gone from all the other xpacs. Even dragonflight.

[Myfwyc-wyrmrest-accord]

Remove Pathfinder, Cool.

Lock Dynamic behind Pathfinder as well, fine. Most of us will have it done in under a week.

Now what?

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

“Its okay if pathfinder locks dynamic. Its harder! Tbc flight should be baseline. Why do we all have to ground ride? Static should be free and dynamic should be locked! You got dynamic for an entire xpac, its time for the tables to turn! Fair is fair.”

@Myfwyc-wyrmrest-accord

Now what?

Nothing. They would find something else to complain about how its not fair cus disabilities.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

@Aeshma-khadgar

No, they are the same. Old flight is steady flight and tbc flight.

You are correct. Very easy to understand the majesty that is TBC normal flying.

[Derkz-westfall]

Basically, this is why I post to begin with. Too many stans trying to get more Blizzy drizzled on their game… rather than asking for a better overall gameplay experience.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

Correct.

It is not about winning or losing or who is right or wrong. If it makes the game better overall for players to play that is why PF must go and not be linked to TBC normal flying.

This is an easy win for BlizZard.

And that way they can turn their attention to more complex issues like class design and hero talents.

[Derkz-westfall]

@Mafic-emerald-dream

more complex issues

These issues remain complex because Blizzard continues to believe there is limitless improvement to be made. At some point, adults need to enter the room, take control of the game development, and decide what ‘world of warcraft’ ought to be.

Vanilla-TBC-Wotlk consistency/congruence/continuity, with a level of Shadowlands/WoD/BFA polish, and a return ‘offline game design.’

Basically, when Blizzard acts like it’s important for the game to remain a valuable play experience, I will behave accordingly and pay for it.