Did you not read what I wrote? “And the week after is early access”
Early access is on the 22nd not 23rd
How is it unfair? When TWW is the most ground Mount friendly expansion since shadowlands.
Oh no 
And why are you saying that if Skyriding doesn’t really help much at all during the campaign? Most of the time I’ll be on my ground mount. And I’ll get my Pathfinder on day 1.
Tbh that’s the funniest part about this entire thing.
The tantrums of unfairness of pathfinder, yet most of us will be ground riding any way because… quest nodes… kill quests, gather quests, transport quests.
You aren’t going to be flying period for most of the leveling experience. You’ll be in the air for a few seconds as you bounce from quest node to quest node. Then ground ride WHILE you are doing the quests.
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I agree with you Moused. I’m very disappointed with Blizzard for not making this situation right and FAIR by now, and also I feel disrespected as a customer & human being. I’m so disgusted with game management that I didn’t buy the new expansion for the first time in 19 years, and I don’t plan to renew my subscription in December - I’m voting 
with my wallet.
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They have removed Dragonridin’s hunt and even other talents like Dragonriding’s Compassion and Dragonsrider’s Initiative, things that make easier to quest/grind with Dragonriding before, now all Skyriding if you fly around after mobs you’ll be out of vigor quickly.
So, you go with ground mounts because it is not feasible skyriding around.
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For the masses not the ultimate meta player like you are my friend. When the masses learn what BlizZard has done?
GG.
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The masses as you call them wont care. That is the point of all this, the masses don’t care that there is pathfinder at this point is so easy to do right at the start. To the masses its not an issue. The xpac will go live and they will all complete it in no time what so ever while they are simply leveling their 1st toon. They wont even probably even notice it much when they get the achievement of completing it. Because there will be other more important things that get unlocked at the same time.
The masses that you speak of, already know that their is a pathfinder unless the live under a rock. Either way early access is in a couple weeks, I doubt very seriously at this point pathfinder will be yanked. Try for xpac after TWW to have it removed.
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You mean for the masses the less than 100 players complaining in the forums, out of the 4,6 million subscribers?
I think you need to learn English before you use words like this.
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What in the tinfoil hat conspiracies are you on about this time?
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I can still have deep respect for someone who didn’t do surface level “respect”, the first time ie saying “hello, are you”.
He still thinks he is the voice or among a majority that feels the way he does. In truth, the “masses” will likely:
- start the expansion, choosing on if they will use SR or ground
- go through the leveling experience like they have done in the previous expansions
- get steady flight unlocked once done with their first character
OR
- start the expansion
- find out they can’t use steady flight
- look up what it takes
- decide it is not that bad if I just do it
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It would be very feasible if you could use steady flight. I think it’s the best flying mode for questing in a particular zone. Can’t wait to use it.
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And all will be able to, after their first time through, if you are talking about steady flight here.
I think it’s fair to say that after multiple changes to the pre-expansion event, and now the changes/rollback on the transmog position…if Blizz really was going to change the PF requirements for steady flight, they would’ve done it by now.
But 15 people on multiple alts yelling about this trivial amount of effort to get steady flight in TWW apparently didn’t do it for the devs.
Can this die now?
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How do you know? Link please.
I will be waiting but I am old so show some mercy.
You are not wrong and many players have expressed the same or similar stentiment in the toggle switch threads too.
That is why TBC normal flying must be decoupled from patchfinder IMVHO.
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I don’t use multi alts…all my Alliance characters have some form of name Mouse in them…Churchmouse…Tinymouse…Dangermouse…Mousepaws…and so on and so on…and I’ll keep saying it What’s good for the Goose is Good for the Gander…and its unfair to stick it too Disabled players having to make them do Pathfinder while others are zooming around using Dragon Flying…I don’t give a hoot how easy it is to do now…its BS …if its so freaky easy as all you haters of disabled players then you should be doing it do to use Dragon Flying…
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How do you know there are 4.6 million subs? Link please?
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https:// www. gamespot. com/articles/we-finally-know-wow-subscription-numbers-thanks-to-a-blizzard-gdc-talk/1100-6522136/
And, for those that can’t or don’t want to use the link:
WoW currently has an estimated 7.25 million subscribers.
And this was in March of this year, so I’d say the 4.6 million is a good, if low, ballpark
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It is definitely not ground friendly expansion which is why you have DR available. But gating TBC normal flying is a contradiction to that design paradigm.
Also, systemlands expansion was one of the worst to use ground mounts with easily based on the vertical and topographic scaling of zones. A good example would be Revendreth and to an extent Bastion.
As you all can see I have a lot of work to do to correct a lot of untruths being spewed in this thread to mislead returning and existing WoW players.
It is my duty that I do with pride and honor.
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FALLACY ALLERT FALLACY ALLERT
Just cause one is available does not mean it is not what others are saying it it. It can still be a ground friendly expansion, as far as leveling up, and still allow DR for thsoe that want it.
What untruths? You are more or less calling all that don’t agree with you a liar. You might not think something is true, that is your prerogative, but just cause you don’t think or feel something is true does not make it so.
We don’t hate disabled players, some of us are disabled ourselves. What we HATE is disabled people that are using their disability to be BULLIES.
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