They are intended for PvE. They specifically state they give those talents in PvE. Now they are nerged and only give a minor defensive which should make it valid on a minor slot imo.
Finally someone agrees with me. Been saying this the whole time, and it was obvious when the minor power of Strife was involving doubling defensive versatility when you lose control of your character. People need to read everything before posting about new traits.
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Mage buff?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Most of the time we will be with healers constantly (well usually) topping us up… do we tell them not to worry.
This is a ridiculous change … we get all this in warmode so what exactly is this benefit ?
The benefit is simply this:
Conflict and Strife:
This essence activates a specific PvP talent in all content, including PvE instances, similar to the Legendary Ring from Legion.
Major Power
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Rank 1: Teaches you the following PvP Talent, and allows its use against all enemies of Azeroth:
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Rank 2: While you are stunned, the defensive benefit from your Versatility is doubled.
Teaches you the following PvP Talent, and allows its use against all enemies of Azeroth: -
Rank 3: While you are stunned, the defensive benefit from your Versatility is doubled.
Teaches you the following PvP Talent, and allows its use against all enemies of Azeroth:
Minor Power
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Rank 1: Your spells and abilities have a chance to increase your Versatility by 46672 for 8 sec, stacking up to 5 times. Being the vicitim of a loss of control or movement impairing effect also grants a stack of Strife.
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Rank 2: You gain 32 Versatility rating for 14 sec after suffering a loss of control effect.
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Rank 3: You gain 32 Versatility rating for 14 sec after suffering a loss of control effect.
NOTE The above was copy pasted from wowhead. I know the Minor Power Rank 1 states an absurd amount of versatility but that is likely just an error somewhere.
Pay special attention to versatility proc requirements in this. You have to have loss of control of your character. Because nearly all the classes before the “nerf” of this had their spells already slotted for Defensive targeting while mages were one of the few, along with Druids, whom spells were Offensive, it is not surprising at all that Blizz corrected themselves to place defensives for the remaining classes. Or at least changed some other offensives to be more utility based. Furthermore the use of this Conflict and Strife Essence means you will have the ability to use a total of 4 PvP talents instead of the normal 3. This essence was fully aimed toward PvP with extremely minor use in PvE.
I always find it hilarious when a mage has very reasonable concerns it is ALWAYS a warrior alt that comes in and claims we are all wrong lol.
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I find it hilarious that the post you quoted had nothing to specifically do with mage, nor have you disprove any post I’ve made that actually did.
Lol.
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Actually what I replied to was your sarcastic post thinking you are clever when you are STILL posting on an alt. It was also the reply you gave that talked about it being for pvp when clearly other classes have HUGE pve benefits. The benefits mages got were taken away. Which was one of the points you responded.
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They all have PvE benefits.
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Hey, so i’ve passed you on every possible metric in this game. Remember, you mocked me for my progression and m+, then got me a ban. Well. I win.
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Please give me a situation where temporal shield his helpful. Only thing I can think of is having to call out to NOT be healed because its going on and when it comes to blanket heals its not gonna matter. On top of that you can still die while using it so healers are supposed to learn to heal just enough to not let you die while using temporal shield? Imo its 1000x easier to just be healed.
Jaina, Uu’nat, Conclave, Rastakan, Grong, Ghuun, Mythrax, Fetid, Vectis, Mother.
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You know there are times when the damage outpaces the healing, right?
You know there are times when damage outpaces healing, right?
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you named bosses not situations. Please tell me where temporal shield there would not just be healed through due to raid wide aoe healing going on. I didnt think you would be that dumb to where I had to specify.
Irony, exemplified.
Also, totally uncalled for.
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Please post on your main so you can quote your raid experience after I tell you how dumb you are. In what situation is there damage outpacing healing so badly that temporal shield becomes worth it? Even if you get half the damage back from temporal you are still not using it to its benefit.
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He isn’t dumb. You have no experience to speak of, so sit down.
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Considering he isnt posting on his main, he cant speak of experience either so its moot if I have no experience to speak of. I want a situation where there isnt blanket healing going on that temporal shield actually has a use.
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He named the bosses where mechanics are made easier. You are just moving the goal post. So please sit down.
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