One thing I like about video games is they can be a safe place to learn important life lessons. I, personally, have got a dirt cheap education on many aspects of human nature in games - then carried that knowledge into IRL where I capitalize upon it.
On this planet, humans are super-predators… name a system - any system - and I guarantee some human will successfully exploit it.
This is a thing I’d much rather learn in the safe spaces of a game than on my first job or my 1st marriage.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying you need to take this knowledge and learn to also be a predator - you can use what you learn to play defense - or simply to cope and avoid.
But IMO its best not to hate the game - it is a safe way to learn about human nature. If you want to hate anything at all hate human nature.
But in so doing be careful you do not end up hating yourself… because human nature is a slippery continuum. In my experience, people who feel victimized can find it very tempting to slip into the mindset that the best defense is a strong offense… and become what they dislike in others.
Look at this game as a laboratory - see what people do, see what your best response might be. Then apply it outside the game.
If you do that, you can turn the tragic chicken who keeps getting run over crossing the road into a delicious chicken salad.
Ignoring what? The fact that GL exposes the hidden rolls that PL always made??? I don’t think anyone here even knows what you’re on about anymore.
All I’ll say before I dump yet another clueless individual who thinks they know a lot more about GL v PL then they actually do onto the ignore list; is that PL will always be superior to GL in pug environments due to the fact that the game both hid your roll and more importantly, allowed you to hide your drops (which ultimately is what the OPs post was all about).
No, the biggest exception is that PL dropped items based on loot tables, which lead to raid groups being inundated with amulets, cloaks, and rings as they were on everyone’s loot tables, and running dry on weapons like glaives and bows as they are on very few people’s loot tables. PL is objectively a worse system, but if you wanna argue that Blizzard should force players to use a worse system in LFR, go for it. I don’t do LFR, I don’t care what happens there…but, don’t try to force an objectively worse loot system on organized raids.
If your argument is the getting the items is not actually what’s important, sure. But PL is functionally inferior at getting loot into the hands of people who are claiming that they’re the ones who truly need it. (except I guess they don’t really need it that bad if they’d rather give the “ninjas” better odds just to hide their rolls.)
And I’m not sure that you read the OP, because it’s not about seeing rolls, it’s about selling loot.
There may be room for it, and if a group wants to run their loot that way, and brings others in to down bosses with the understanding that that is how loot will be distributed (is this what GDKP is? I honestly don’t know), then that’s fine because everyome is agreeing prior to any loot dropping. That’s not something you do in LFR though, unless you can queue a whole group of 25 people together that know and are okay with it.
That’s fair. However, did anyone say outright that gear wasn’t going to be sold? If not, then there’s not really anything you can say or do about this. Random people are gonna do random things.
Again: I signed up for an LFR raid that’s NbG ruleset. That’s literally the ruleset. Rolling on a piece of loot in an automated queue system just to sell it is BS and we all know it.
I didn’t say it wasn’t BS. I agree completely on this. However, it’s not against the rules or ToS, so…not much that can be done about this. That said, I prefer having a system that allows for the freedom to do whatever a person wants with their loot, whether I agree with it or not. It’s best not to let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.
