My favorite comment on Durumu was somebody who said they were in LFR and one person just announced to the raid before the pull “Just stand in front of the boss and die to his laser eye so the nerds who understand the maze can carry us.”
It was a common tactic, but I just never heard it expressed quite so… I dunno, “eloquently” is the wrong word, but it was something.
The funny part, to me, was:
Calling the people who are carrying you “nerds”.
Calling it a “maze” when it was THREE STRAIGHT LINES (I mean, they bent slightly, but they never intersect. A maze is a bunch of intersecting passages. Durummu was three lines that never cross…).
Everyone was just really bad at wow 15 years ago. I bet you if we had tbc servers we’d be aoeing them down much like we did in tier4.
People didn’t gear right, didn’t play right and would play too cautious with brain dead Cc like sheep/sap/trap. If you didn’t play a class/spec with these Ccs then you had a harder time joining groups.
I find that if you do it at the start of the week, you’re guaranteed to do it under 4 stacks; I’ve one-shot it myself in that time period. The later the week gets by, the more difficult it seems to become.
Just like that one boss in Legion, Il’gynoth or something like that, where you had the kill the bloods on the eye to damage it, but you can just sit there and watch players tunnel everything they have at a 99% damage reduced boss…
It’s hard because players want things handed to them in LFR and they simply can’t be bothered to work as a team and follow through with a simple couple mechanics.
Instead, you get a group in, you wipe, 50+% of that group leaves. Know why? It’s because they want instant gratification for as little work as possible. They want it handed to them.
LFR is a playerbase problem, not a difficulty problem.
That’s not actually true. I know because in my LFR N’Zoth groups, very few people leave after each wipe. That’s because they know that the wipe is one step on the road to getting better and getting the boss down.
In groups where half the people leave, the people are leaving because they have no idea how to improve and see no path to getting better and getting the boss down, usually because the group has no competent leadership.
Well then you must be in some fantasy groups because the times I’ve attempted / done lfr Nzoth, it’s nothing but repeating mechanics to people in and out of the group.
Or repeating mechanics for those who stay in the group and just don’t care to listen.
It’s highly subjective why they truly leave after the first wipe, but the evidence adds up IMO.
I’m telling you I know exactly whether they leave. In your groups, half leave after every wipe, according to your post. In my groups, 0-3 people leave after every wipe. That’s a big difference, and it’s not subjective at all.