There are some very obvious flaws with PL. A big one is that you get assigned loot that you may not want that ruins your chances to get meaningful loot off the next boss. Even if you could give it away, that doesn’t matter, you weren’t getting loot again for a while.
It would just randomly determine who gets loot off a specific boss and then give them a piece of loot off that table. It doesn’t matter if that boss has no upgrades for you, that’s the boss you are forced to take loot from. It doesn’t matter if the next boss is the one you are hoping for, you have zero chance of getting something from that boss now.
If people wanted to share loot with friends it literally would have no impact on you at all. Probably why I never noticed anyone doing this ever in LFR. Armor stacking was mostly a M+ thing.
Never happened to me unless you consider someone just asking a question harassment. Never saw anyone demand anything from anyone loot wise in LFR. People asked if you needed something and if you did or said nothing they moved on.
In LFR I don’t think anything was improved at all by changing to the current system.
Everyone had an equal chance of getting something with personal loot because there was just one roll to see who got loot and then it rolled to give you something from your loot table. Now there’s first a loot table roll and then you have to roll against a bunch of people if something you want drops. I think that makes you far less likely to get a drop in LFR with the current system compared to PL.
The only real issue with personal loot was it didn’t allow you to exclude yourself from the pool of players if you didn’t want anything at all. Perhaps a better system would be to have a loot roll system like personal loot that pops up something if you won and show you what it was and if you don’t want it you can pass and it’ll give something to someone else instead.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of this. AFAIK you have equal chance to get a drop from any boss. Is the implication that you’re given an RNG penalty going forward per boss? Is it all pre determined on entrance to the raid?
Do you have a source read on this?
And tbh, if anything the speculated problem behind why it was removed is the opposite… If you armor stacked you got loot too well compare to GL who can drop, not only something not usable, but something nobody can equip.
That’s a far bigger flaw.
If it’s just for a quest then how does them needing matter at all to you? Lmao some times I just can’t help but be baffled at the stupidity that shines through the forums.
This wasn’t about friends and it absolutely impacted the entire raid team in LFR and above. It’s why Blizz will never bring it back.
Your anecdotal experience is not reality.
You are so wrong it’s not even funny.
Once again, your anecdotal experience does not negate reality. This forum was full of those complaints constantly and also the degenerate addon people used.
Let’s not live in a bubble.
No one had “an equal chance.” No one was guaranteed loot.
The system rolled to see who got stuff, then rolled for the piece. Now, the system drops loot and then rolls to see who gets it. Some of us went weeks without seeing loot with PL and some of us still go weeks without seeing loot with GL. Some of us got three drops with PL and some of us got three drops with GL. Rolls are gonna roll.
This is false.
Clearly an informed conversation is not to be had here. So I’ll just stop.
It absolutely isn’t. Nor will it return due to group stacking.
I agree, the game should separate LFR queues so that everyone under 595 gets grouped together and everyone over gets grouped together. That way we can try to ensure that everyone rolling needs the upgrade.
And yet there were many, many complaints about overgeared players rolling need on items they didn’t actually need and holding them for ransom. I guess you and I have a different definition of “need” if you think “demanding money for gear” should be a higher priority than “equipping that gear”.
Because I’m not interested in getting paired with sweats especially there’s character progression involved which there WAS during LFR… even if it is to complete the story.
Ikr, take the person I’m replying to right now for example.
need / greed system is by far the worst thing they added back into the game, its a trash unrewarding system, tbh raiding is atrociously bad for time vs reward. i did 8/8 normal and heroic this weekend and walked away with 0 loot, and you wonder why less and less raid every season.
Armor stacking for loot distribution was very popular. Both guild runs and selling carry runs. People would literally pay extra for cloth stack or etc.
