LFR Loot Rolling Needs a Serious Overhaul

[Eneria-zuljin]

@Snozay-area-52

Or we can just get rid of LFR

I was for that long ago. Or making LFR=Normal mode and able to random group it, heroic=mythic and get rid of mythic as well.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Eneria-zuljin

You would be surprised at how many people do.

The funny thing is while you’re advocating for group loot.

Everyone rolling need is the equivalent of PL

[Eneria-zuljin]

@Snozay-area-52

The funny thing is while you’re advocating for group loot.

Everyone rolling need is the equivalent of PL

They are not the same at all.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Eneria-zuljin

Or making LFR=Normal mode and able to random group it

No

@Eneria-zuljin

heroic=mythic and get rid of mythic as well.

Again no.

Since you don’t do the content don’t make terrible ideas on the content.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

WoW breeds bigotry because class balance. Bro go outside

[Eneria-zuljin]

@Snozay-area-52

The only people that support PL are uneducated on what the differences are.

Actually lets take group loot a step further and tanks and healers get priority because they are way more important than dps.

[Eneria-zuljin]

@Kiyoko-ravenholdt

WoW breeds bigotry because class balance. Bro go outside

I like the outdoors. It does not change the fact that some races and classes are hated in the community. Maybe not as a whole but there are groups that have that mentality.

edit: I mean who wants a Vulpera sub rogue?

[Snozay-area-52]

@Eneria-zuljin

Actually lets take group loot a step further and tanks and healers get priority because they are way more important than dps.

Thanks for proving you have zero clue how gearing works at high end.

Tanks and healers are usually lowest priority.

Dps then healers then tanks for tier and priority.

[Nightpain-earthen-ring]

@Snozay-area-52

Or we can just get rid of LFR

Get rid of the most used raid mode (casuals VASTLY outnumber hardcore raiders)… yep, that makes sense. Makes more sense to get rid of mythic raiding (hint: it doesn’t).

[Snozay-area-52]

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

Get rid of the most used raid mode

LFR and normal combine don’t even equal heroic. So no heroic is the most used raid mode.

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

casuals VASTLY outnumber hardcore raiders)…

I’m a casual mythic raider. You don’t know what casual actually means.

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

yep, that makes sense. Makes more sense to get rid of mythic raiding (hint: it doesn’t).

The only people crying about loot are LFR heroes. So either get rid of LFR or loot from LFR

[Nightpain-earthen-ring]

@Snozay-area-52

The only people crying about loot are LFR heroes. So either get rid of LFR or loot from LFR

Or let the people who do LFR have a loot system that makes sense instead of one that is meant for coordinated groups that have enough respect for each other to use the GL system as it was intended.

If Blizz just enforced the roll system so that it is used as intended, the “LFR heroes” wouldn’t be complaining. Instead, we have people rolling need because they “need” it for transmog (despite there being a transmog button), or they “need” it to vendor / alts (despite there being a greed button).

[Snozay-area-52]

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

Or let the people who do LFR have a loot system that makes sense instead of one that is meant for coordinated groups that have enough respect for each other to use the GL system as it was intended.

ML is the loot system for coordinated groups.

GL is the middle ground between ML and PL.

Even with Pl LFR heroes have shown an inability to not throw a tantrum about loot.

On top of that yall don’t even know how PL works or that everyone hitting “need” in GL is PL

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

If Blizz just enforced the roll system so that it is used as intended, the “LFR heroes” wouldn’t be complaining. Instead, we have people rolling need because they “need” it for transmog (despite there being a transmog button), or they “need” it to vendor / alts (despite there being a greed button).

You guys can’t even refute the people needing for an actual upgrade point I have made multiple times in this thread.

Yall seriously need to stop being so entitled and worrying about who won and what they had.

[Eryet-feathermoon]

the power of the gear will be replaced in a week

the transmog is forever

[Nightpain-earthen-ring]

@Snozay-area-52

GL is the middle ground between ML and PL.

And normal / heroic raids are great for GL. They are the middle ground of raiding.

Give mythic raids ML, normal and heroic GL, and leave LFR with PL.

The reason people are complaining is that despite what the claims are, we are seeing less loot with GL than with PL. On top of that, all of our frustrations are being directed toward other players who make the conscious decision to roll need on something they don’t need. With PL, we can point our frustrations at the system instead.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

The reason people are complaining is that despite what the claims are, we are seeing less loot with GL than with PL.

Objectively false, it is 1/5. We had 1/5 when I took a break in SL.

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

On top of that, all of our frustrations are being directed toward other players who make the conscious decision to roll need on something they don’t need.

Your frustrations are directed at players who decided that they needed an item they were eligible to roll need for because you feel entitled to someone else’s items.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

And normal / heroic raids are great for GL. They are the middle ground of raiding.

Give mythic raids ML, normal and heroic GL, and leave LFR with PL.

Nope. LFR doesn’t deserve any special
Treatment. It gets gl like everyone else.

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

The reason people are complaining is that despite what the claims are, we are seeing less loot with GL than with PL. On top of that, all of our frustrations are being directed toward other players who make the conscious decision to roll need on something they don’t need. With PL, we can point our frustrations at the system instead.

I don’t care why they are complaining. I honestly don’t. None of their complaints are justified because it’s a pure lack of understanding on how the loot systems work.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

@Snozay-area-52

because it’s a pure lack of understanding on how the loot systems work.

I think it’s just feeling entitled to the items. We all know the same posts happened with Personal loot.

[Phisbin-madoran]

Clearly you misunderstand what lfr is for or maybe you are just stupid

[Huntaren-living-flame]

Anytime I bring this issue up in game or on the forums I am berated by people who try and claim that a LFR item is somehow better their 610 gear.

[Dwelknarr-lothar]

@Nightpain-earthen-ring

The reason people are complaining is that despite what the claims are, we are seeing less loot with GL than with PL.

Then where are those items you aren’t winning going? Blizzard hasn’t changed the number of items that drop in raid since the transition from BFA into SL. The same number of items are being distributed to the same number of people. It’s mathematically impossible for all players to experience the same stroke of bad luck unless fewer items are being awarded.

@Huntaren-living-flame

Anytime I bring this issue up in game or on the forums I am berated by people who try and claim that a LFR item is somehow better their 610 gear.

Because sometimes it is. There are a lot of gaps in item level as it relates to the power level of the gear.