When did I say I should get gear over the other person? I am just the voice for the LFR groups I have been in lately. Not all but most of them.
Anyone who believes PL is worse than the bs we have now is braindead and part of the issue. theyre the ones going in and needing/tmogging anything they dont already have. PL raids were NEVER this bad. ive literally done both wings of the new raid that are out on 3 seperate characters and won 0 pieces of gear. if PL was still a thing i would have gotten at least 1 piece, maybe not useable but at least something was earned other than bs currency that isnt even guaranteed to drop either. the looting system in LFR is absolute trash and needs to change to something else, or just get rid of LFR alltogether, serves almost no actual purpose other than being something to do when youve done all your other activites while also holding the most toxic and POS players known to the game.
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No, it doesn’t. I’ve not seen someone kicked in a single LFR from Vault through to last week running Nerubar Palace. Every data point I see says the precise opposite of this claim.
I do agree with that. Personal Loot should be a thing for any random group.
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Yet I have plenty of times and seen the drama it causes.
Gonna make an educated guess it was the common factor that is responsible for that
But it is also queued content, and queued content uses personal loot.
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They don’t. Dungeons are personal loot, raids are group loot.
Were those vote kicks from the players who are cool rolling against anyone and are happy to receive the items? Or people like you who are expecting everyone you deem unworthy to roll on an item to pass?
Stop deflecting. Your entire argument is that players shouldn’t be able to need on items that aren’t performance upgrades. Yet your proposed solution would disallow players from needing on performance upgrades. These two positions are intellectually dishonest.
Right here:
You are wanting to define arbitrary rules to limit who can roll on items based on item level. Meanwhile the people responding in disagreement with you aren’t asking for restrictions placed in your rolls, just an equal chance. Even if the entire raid presses need on an item you “need” more, you still have a chance to win it.
There are reasons to like both systems beyond just abusing other players. Starting out with pure ad hominem toward anyone who disagrees with you makes for a poor argument.
At the end of the day, the same number of players are splitting the same amount of loot. If you truly have been this unlucky, one or more players in your raid necessarily had to have been luckier than they would have under PL. At any point, you could be the one who gets to be that luckier person.
It is how the system works does it suck ya it really does but in the end it is their gear to do what they want they rolled and won. Suck it up and move to the next boss next raid next encounter. Jealousy does not become you nor does wasting time on a subject the people in charge have no interest in changing.
Do not look at me. I fear vote kicking people due to retribution. Plus I see no reason 99% of the time.
This game creates greed, jealousy, hate, elitism, bigotry, etc. That is what WoW has become on the big fully populated realms. It is all about numbers and that next hit of dopamine. I really would love to be able to find a relaxed and chill realm (for the most part, I know it is impossible for 100 % of any realm can be that way) but I made the choice to start over on full population realms thinking there would be more guilds to choose from that had all sorts of different objectives. Off topic but I was wrong.
Easy make a horde toon on AP. There you will see a sea of orange and so little blue it will be like a vacation in its entirety. HAHA
I’ve never not gotten loot in LFR and thought to even check the winner’s gear to see if they “need” it. Didn’t win? Ah well, try again.
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I’m reminded of an old Amish saying.
“Only look in your neighbors bowl to be sure it’s not empty.”
Jesse what are you talking about?
5 mans use pl. raids use group loot.
Or we can just get rid of LFR
You would be surprised at how many people do.
Someone is definitely braindead but it’s not the people supporting group loot.
The only people that support PL are uneducated on what the differences are.
Lol talking about WoW. Some classes and races are preferred above others. People always want the best gear these days and do not look at the need of the whole raid.