Not any more Im not. lesson learned. People are people and even in a video game when theyre screaming about ‘muh communiteez’ theyre just as likely to be abusive and irritate me as the are when Im on the road and they cut me off.
Like I said…it aint worth it.
I know my personality. I dont want to have it happen and find out the person I just scarred by what I responded to his abusive mouth was some 12 year old kid with mental problems.
Heres the facts. I have LFR to play. IF they were to remove that, Id just play ESO more if I needed group content. ESO doesnt require me to group because it has public dungeons and delves that are like WoW dungeons, but you can run in and find tons of others in there already playing…kinda like a legion invasion point but FAR more interesting.
i’ll do that before i’ll raid in a guild in this game.
And I aint waiting two hours again waiting on LFG.
First, lets look at the crowd that is playing WoW for the first time. They hit level cap, and decide they want to see the story through. “Beat the game” if you will. These players are funnelled into LFR, as it is the path of least resistance, and they don’t have to
They queue up, maybe wipe a few times, but inevitably they kill the big bad, turn in their final quest, and “Beat the game”.
You did it. You are the hero of azeroth, you can uninstall the game now, all without talking to another human.
This is the problem with LFR. The path of least resistance should never be a solo player experience.
yeah if only we had some historical timeframe to look at to determine whether people will play in raids when LFR doesn’t exist.
that is absolutely an absurd statement given how much solo content there is to do in this game not to mention the fact that if we’re talkin about just gearing up questing is by far better than LFR will ever be. And on top of that LFR is actually group content where I am literally group with other players so it’s not actually as solo as some people are claiming it is.
Are you actually trying to be deceptive here? because if that were the case that a vast majority of players actually we’re playing raids at the time that early in the game than they would have been absolutely zero need for LFR to have ever been created. You’re going to have to try much harder than this
I have no intentions of getting philosophical or existential with you. The fact is that you were grouped up and I’m not going to play semantics games with you. LFR is grouping up with other players to do raid content. I’m pretty sure that’s pretty much the end of the story
Twitch data is relevant. That’s why companies pay big streamers thousands to play their game on stream as advertising expenditure. Something like “which game is biggest” can’t be realistically measured with one statistic.
yeah I know exactly when it was created. And I also know that the reasons stated for it being created. I saw the charts myself where the sub numbers were dropping by about 2 million by the time LFR came into the picture. So any claims that LFR caused the drops is an absolute outright lie and we all know it. I asked you a question how many people were playing in the raids back during the time that you referenced with those bosses? Obviously blizzard felt that they wanted more people to see the raid content or LFR would have never been created. So we can sit and play the semantics games all night but it’s not going to change the fact that LFR was created to increase raid participation because they felt that it wasn’t high enough
Odd most join guilds, new players I mean. If they are truly being funneled as you say into LFR, I’d blame their guild mates for that not the availability of the content.
I don’t see that mentality anywhere, frankly I’d have to struggle to find it. There is no beating WoW, it’s a constantly evolving story. With the systems in place now, it actually pushes players to repeat content to win that lottery unlike the older loot styles that I for one preferred.
Let me ask you this though, why do you seem to think all new players are so simple? You keep using them as straw-men, without so much anecdotal proof. We’ve had plenty new to WoW players this expansion in our guild, much like we have so returns from the WoD era. None seem to have this simplistic mindset you seem so apt to push on them. The ones I encountered enjoy all sorts of content and don’t seem to be shoehorned into LFR like you keep implying.
I already explained to you that I’m not playing philosophy or semantics with you. we all know that when you join LFR you’re joining up in a group for group content. That’s pretty much the fact of the matter and you sitting here trying to deny it or play games with it is actually not helping your argument at all even if you don’t understand that
That has nothing to do with the fact that LFR is group content. other than that I’ve never had anybody to my b net. I’ve had other players send me an invite to join theirs or something to that effect. I’m not interested in making friends in this game. Not after what I’ve dealt with which would include having to deal with personalities like yours.
and what I mean by that is we tell you we don’t want to join your guild’s or play the game you want us to play and yet you can’t let it go and just acknowledge that maybe we have our own preferences in the game that we are playing.
I mean your kind of proving my point for me here about the way people behave in this game even if you don’t realize that
Nnnnope. I’m looking for corroborating data, of which I have found little so far. As far as being “the biggest entertainment tracking companies in the world”, good for them? What does that mean for their accuracy?
I mean…you’re supposed to do due diligence on any data claim. Or, you can just accept it because THEY’RE THE BIGGEST.
So your earlier claim that WoW was #6 should have been “#6 in Asia”? Cool. It’d have been nice if you specified that.
See how just a little investigation uncovers relevant information?
actually that is an excellent point. Anybody remember the big scandal over Captain marvel and the rotten tomatoes website skewing the numbers on that movie to make it seem like it was getting better reviews than it actually was.
Online reviews these days should be taken with a grain of salt. There was a skin care company last week in the states that got a slap on the wrist over the same thing. People pay others for reviews, it has been going on for years now, I doubt it will change due to it being hard to prove without a ton of resources.