Nailed it…
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So people that don’t want LFR are entitled in their feelings that LFR shouldn’t be a thing? Somehow they are entitled to feel good? Pretty sure every person on the planet is entitled if that’s the case lol.
Both people are arguing for the version of the game they prefer nothing more.
One enjoyed what wow used to be. A slow laid out progression path through ever increasingly difficult content with a finite start and ending.
The other enjoys near afking to completely invalidate the system the other person liked and through it has passively added more and more grinding to the game in order to drag out subscription time.
Both are just forwarding the idea that the model of game they prefer is best nothing more.
And an all time low for the percentage of the playerbase seeing raid content…
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good if you cant put in the time or effort you shouldn’t get the reward.
wait…what?
So YOU cant have a guild and raid just like you were always able to if I have some joke raid I can queue for???
Why am I not buying it?
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You probably shouldn’t let your personal bias leak out so hard.
LFR is fine as it is. There literally is no one forcing you to interact with LFR at all if you don’t want to.
IF you don’t like LFR, just simply don’t do LFR. Just like if you don’t like PvP, you don’t do PvP, just like if you don’t like pet battles, you don’t do pet battles, just like if you don’t like raiding, you don’t do raiding. ect. ect.
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You should get rewarded for any time and effort you put into a video game, just get lower quality rewards fir lower quality effort… which is the case with LFR
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I’m all for LFR, but that system, among all systems within in the game, exist in harmony with each other, or lack there of this case, lol. Whether you like it or not, every aspect of the game has some lingering or underlying effect on a completely different aspect of the game. They are sub-categories with the game itself attempting to exist together, there’s going to be effects from balancing and rewards structure, etc.
Now, does that mean removing LFR would harmonize the game more? Nope, not at all (I think a decent chunk of people would quit). But saying that one aspect of the game has no effect on the other is preposterous. Go read the arena forums and see what they are complaining about if you feel like an aspect of the game isn’t directly affecting other people.
You didn’t even read what a wrote.
The old system and lfr can not exist at the same time. It doesn’t matter if you think it isn’t needed or not to progress this is simply the reality of the situation.
For one to flourish the other must linger and die.There is no happy solution for both parties.
yeah…they dont have to deal with drama from guildies or wait two hours trying to LFG.
Both VERY good reasons to LFR.
uh huh…except blizzard is the one who SAID LFR JUSTIFIES making more raid content
"LFR justifies the creation of more raid content when millions of players are able to see content.
Ion Hazzikostas - Lead Encounter Designer (Convert to Raid)
Doesnt matter if you personally cant handle that…it is what it is.
and yes…I’ll take Ion over you on the matter any day.
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"LFR justifies the creation of more raid content when millions of players are able to see content.
Ion Hazzikostas - Lead Encounter Designer (Convert to Raid)
feel better?
We haven’t been getting larger raids since LFR was implemented
uh…sorry…where again does it say ‘LFR justifies the creation of LARGER raid content’ in that quote?
I cant see that part in there
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why are you trying to start a personal attack on people? green text or not don’t be a dick
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I’m almost certain they never said that. However, one of the main reasons it became a thing was to justify all the time spent on raids that nobody was actually seeing.
A blue responded to someone way back when about them wanting epics to actually be epic again with some people chiming in about lfr. They said they didn’t wanna go back to 1% of the players seeing the content.
We don’t want to restrict raiding again to <1% of the player base
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7860746695?page=2#36
I wouldn’t know if the raids would be considered much better since LFR became a thing since my version of better would be subjective. I will say that it certainly has allowed them to continue working away at new raid content since the vast majority of their players now have the option to engage in it, even if it’s nerfed to hell and back.
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Uh, yes they can. People can progress though progressively difficult content as they always have. LFR has no impact on that.
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I miss when the bar for something being in the game was if people enjoyed it or not rather then how many players can see it…
Sadly it seems that concept is gone and ap,titanforging,isles,warfronts, mission tables, and a host of other awful content is here to stay.
For those players who raid heroic and above and mid range mythic+ for the majority of players it does though the terrible system of titanforging mitigates this somewhat as they can grind terrible daily quests and warfronts instead.
agree to disagree. I don’t think LFR is a good thing for the game at all.
Wrong.
what you should have said was…“There is no happy solution for ONE party”
LFR players are perfectly content. its the OCD obsession from ‘real’ raiders…(not REAL raiders, btw…I dont include them in this statement) that keeps them from not being able to let go of the fact a decade later that dirty casuals are seeing end game content.
Kinda pathetic when I think about it.
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