Lfr is bad for the game

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

Uh huh. Dont play much LFR?
Fewer mechanics do not = being able to ignore them.
Sorry friend, I did all the Legion raids on my main account.
ther was no ‘ignoring’ anything
Exaggeration isnt your friend.

Are you trying to misquote me on purpose? Or are you having issues or something?

You LFR people couldn’t stop attacking the boss in defensive stance so they had to nerf it so you could just ignore his mechanics.

[anon2121503]

It doesn’t say anything about how LFR is “bad” and how it’s “bad” of you for having a simple way to find a group.

A statement that is sheer tripe nonsense.
Do you walk 8 miles to work when you can drive?
No…you do the CONVENIENT thing and it has ZERO bearing on anything being ‘bad’.
The game has adapted to a newer player base.
I suggest you all get with the times and do the same.

[anon2121503]

Uh huh. Dont play much LFR?
Fewer mechanics do not = being able to ignore them.
Sorry friend, I did all the Legion raids on my main account.
ther was no ‘ignoring’ anything
Exaggeration isnt your friend.

Are you trying to misquote me on purpose? Or are you having issues or something?

You LFR people couldn’t stop attacking the boss in defensive stance so they had to nerf it so you could just ignore his mechanics.

just WOW.
not even sure what to say…
Glorp?

[Lenarific-ysera (Lenarific)]

More than anything I believe this is why people want Vanilla WoW so bad

idc if classic is ever launched it was a grind and thats it…

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

just WOW.
not even sure what to say…
Glorp?

You quoted Turnberry, but swapped out them to be me in the quote, are you low functioning?

[anon2121503]

just WOW.
not even sure what to say…
Glorp?

You quoted Turnberry, but swapped out them to be me in the quote, are you low functioning?

not my problem if the quoting feature aint working right, son.

[Houdi-windrunner]

Its affecting everything because since LFR is the first level of difficulty it is what’s setting the bar …which I think warfronts are setting a higher bar than lfr at the moment…

So tell them to change the bar.
Tell them to fix the numbers.
Demanding that LFR is bad and that my ability to get a random group together be removed and somehow is bad for the game is simply asinine.

you can still get a random group together… It’s called custom group finder. Sure Its pressing 3 more buttons now instead of 1 but at least there people can determine what your ilv is and what bosses you have killed.

LFR is bad for the game period and it does not stop you from experience lower level content … God forbid you have to be social and find a group in an MMO.

[Jalen-emerald-dream (Jalën)]

Yeah they actually do. I did LFR Zek Voz for the first time the other day because someone told me you actually cant die on that fight. So I brought my DPS in there and stood in every Surging Darkness and ran around and spawned every Yogg add, couldn’t kill myself even with trying.

Pretty much all the bosses are target dummies with large hp pools.

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

Don’t you know?

The game has adapted to a newer player base.
I suggest you all get with the times and do the same.

The “new” playerbase doesn’t know how to function properly, so the training wheels need to be on for the whole one-hundred or else it’s game over for them.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

Thing is,if the game hits a really low point,it will either be buried or actually raise red flags that something within the game is causing the players not to be interested right after an expansion launch and people will try to fix it. The more we raise our voices about it, the more evident the problem becomes.
Simply covering your ears and eyes does no make the problem go away.

The first step to solving a problem is recognizing there is one.

And there’s a big issue with this game, tjat has been here for a long time.

[anon2121503]

So…LFR bad because;

-hurts feelings
or
-unfair for those who have to manually gather groups
or
-gear too good
or
-bar set too low?
or
-causes ADHD and laziness
or
…

yeah…something…one of those…thats why i hate it. Pick one.

[Houdi-windrunner]

Yeah they actually do. I did LFR Zek Voz for the first time the other day because someone told me you actually cant die on that fight. So I brought my DPS in there and stood in every Surging Darkness and ran around and spawned every Yogg add, couldn’t kill myself even with trying.

Pretty much all the bosses are target dummies with large hp pools.

Do you know what happens when you get zapped Phase 1 on Zek?.. oh thats right … he doesn’t even do that in LFR. Short answer is … you die … and everyone around you dies.

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

Pick one.

I picked the one you choose to ignore sweety.

I personally have brought up the exponential power curvature we have for Blizzard trying to fit in four raid difficulties, although some seemed to have missed that.

Edit: Now arguably you can throw in Flex(Normal) into the mix because LFR predates that difficulty, but if they squeeze it out of the lost there will be too big of a difficulty gap for some players. (I’m more LFR to be as rewarding as it should be, with dungeon gear, rather than it’s termination)

And

Yeah, we really don’t need normal anymore, it kinda just was there originally as a test in SoO for group size scaling raids.

If they remove it and lower the item level Heroic and Mythic drop as well as the respective mechanics to not need that high amount of gear, the game could definitely benefit not having to grow so out of control.

I was just on the PTR and set up my 384 Paladin in full 415 gear(414 with neck), and my HP grew from 160k to about 250k, which is insane for one tier, considering Crucible of Storms is supposed to be like ToV with another slight increase. By the expansion’s end we’re likely to be at 400k, which is a terrifyingly fast amount of growth. Essentially cementing the fact they are very likely to do another stat squish. Which is a huge issue.

[anon2121503]

Thing is,if the game hits a really low point,it will either be buried or actually raise red flags that something within the game is causing the players not to be interested right after an expansion launch and people will l try to fix it. The more we raise our voices about it, the more evident the problem becomes.
Simply covering your ears and eyes does no make the problem go away.

The first step to solving a problem is recognizing there is one.

And there’s a big issue with this game, tjat has been here for a long time.

And the problem is CRAP CONTENT…end of story.
LFR or no LFR this game has sucked since MoP, plain and simple.

[Turnberry-illidan (Turnberry)]

I think more so it has created this group of lazy and apathetic players who don’t want to get better because LFR makes it so they don’t have to, then they are designing these expansions around those people.

[Jalen-emerald-dream (Jalën)]

Do you know what happens when you get zapped Phase 1 on Zek?.. oh thats right … he doesn’t even do that in LFR. Short answer is … you die … and everyone around you dies.

I’m aware of the mechanic. Not sure what your point is.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

Lfr is crap content.

It’s like the McDonals/Burger King of wow.

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

They’re saying mechanics that matter usually aren’t present in LFR, which is hilarious.

[anon2121503]

I think more so it has created this group of lazy and apathetic players who don’t want to get better because LFR makes it so they don’t have to, then they are designing these expansions around those people.

And I think its not your business that many players WANT to remain CASUAL.
I own businesses friend.
I can assure you that TELLING paying customers what they are going to get instead of giving them what they want is a sure fire way to make them take those $$$ elsewhere.

[Houdi-windrunner]

So…LFR bad because;

-hurts feelings
or
-unfair for those who have to manually gather groups
or
-gear too good
or
-bar set too low?
or
-causes ADHD and laziness
or
…

yeah…something…one of those…thats why i hate it. Pick one.

LFR is bad because it diminishes the quality of the game.

Quality>Quantity