Lfr is bad for the game

[Charn-detheroc]

I think all levels of raid should award the same gear. That way people can pick the level of challenge and camaraderie they want without the pressure of needing gear upgrades.

[Jalen-emerald-dream (Jalën)]

I think all levels of raid should award the same gear.

coughs up drink

[anon2121503]

There is no burden of proof.
The debate is if it’s good or bad.

uh…yeah…ok.
YOu were the one who rambled on about ‘debate’ pal.
Dont bait and switch with me…mmmm k.
Yea…sorry…YOU made the assertions…YOU are the one who has to PROVE those assertions.
I asked you to PROVE to me that LFR harms the game.
I got nothing
I asked you to PROVE that even 2% of subs lost were over LFR.
I got nothing.

I realize you dont know how this works…but when you make claims and then dont back them up it lends to the idea that you have zero credibility and are only speaking from emotionalism
You bash LFR while ALL of your raiding history is SOLELY LFR. (as is my own, but I AM NOT bashing LFR here, you are)

I can judge your arguments based on what you say and what proof exists.
I have proof that you bash LfR in here.
I also have proof that you ONLY show LFR in your own raid history.
What proof do YOU have?
Nothing from anything youve posted here that shows that;

• LFR harms the game
• Subs were lost over LFR.

[Shimmerfae-emerald-dream (Shimmerfae)]

Agreed. People these days don’t know what an mmo should be.

[Selith-thorium-brotherhood (Selith)]

how do I get effort to gear up my healer would love to do that before just focusing on horde toons which I may do sick of gearing up my 120s dont really care if they are beyond green gear took me forever to get DK to gear level 366…

Most likely just going to work on Horde toon.

BUT HONESTLY MAKE HEART OF AZEROTH LEVEL HIGHEST ONE CARRY OVER TO ALL TOONS!!! IT MAKES BLOODY SENSE SO DO IT BLIZZARD I BEG YOU!!!

(Sorry for caps but have to get a message across)

[Tyriellais-thunderhorn (Tyriellais)]

There are plenty of YouTube videos you can watch for the story while you do your rotation on a target dummy. Do we really need LFR when you can just do that?

And guess what? I don’t need to sub and pay for your Mythic BS to do that. Bye, Felicia! Have fun funding your raids with only a thousand players!

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Riot_Ghostcrawler

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2y

I have a lot of regrets about Raid Finder for WoW. I am sure I worked on features that were much, much worse, but that’s the first one that came to mind.

To be clear, the goal of getting more players into raiding is a good one. But the way Raid Finder turned out removed, IMO anyway, a lot of the epicness of what made raiding raiding. I also haven’t played WoW in a few years, so it’s entirely possible they have solved the problem by now

Are we gonna keep doing this all night?
I got it ready on ctrl+v

I noticed. It’s called “spam” when you constantly post the same thing over and over again without contributing. Reported.

[Vertigineux-thrall (Vertigineux)]

Yyyyyyikes. Mic drop x10. Good on him. /cheer

[Orsobovus-zuljin (Orsobovus)]

Removing the rewards from LFR doens’t discourage the people who are there to see the story in the raid or the cool new bosses.

Okay, so they shouldn’t remove the rewards from the content you do, because you wouldn’t do it if there was no incentive. But LFR and people who do LFR are special and different. They should do LFR after you have removed all rewards.

Odd argument you have there.

Removing the rewards from LFR doens’t discourage the people who are there to see the story in the raid or the cool new bosses.

I’m not sure why you would think people should wipe in a raid for no reward. Would your content be more enjoyable if they “fixed” it so you could expect to wipe regularly?

Again, remove the rewards and you will be amazed at how many players want to see the content.

Yes. Casuals who do LFR don’t deserve loot and should be forced to play without it. Just as long as you can keep getting your free lootz.

You make zero sense.

[anon2121503]

Emotionalism?

I’ve done nothing but give facts.
You on the other hand…CAPS LOCK lol

no…you havent. Anything youve provided has been old news and irrelevance.

Secondly…you say youve made no claims here.

Also I’ve claimed nothing.

I don’t need to show you any numbers, you can tell there’s a crowd that is not happy with LFR and those that quit over it are gone long time ago.

LFR is perhaps not a direct cause of player discontent, but a symptom in causing such even if subconciously.

sorry but those ARE claims/ assertions, friend.
Now you need to back them up.
Start withthe first one, please.
SHOW US the numbers of people who “quit over it are gone a long time ago”.

[Turnberry-illidan (Turnberry)]

And guess what? I don’t need to sub and pay for your Mythic BS to do that. Bye, Felicia! Have fun funding your raids with only a thousand players!

28000 guilds have killed at least 1 mythic boss. That’s over 500,000 people. Over 40,000 guilds have killed at least 1 heroic boss. A big percentage of people do Normal+ raids especially when you look at sub number speculation.

[Drolvarg-garrosh (Drolvarg)]

BFA is bad for the game.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

There’s no mic drop when I already defeated that with the GC link.

I can’t link it again since apparently it’s “spam”. Triggered snowflakes.

[Orsobovus-zuljin (Orsobovus)]

I don’t need to show you any numbers, you can tell there’s a crowd that is not happy with LFR and those that quit over it are gone long time ago.

I see no logic behind your claim that a great many players who enjoyed the game otherwise have quit because of the existence of LFR. And definitely not any numbers. That’s quite an extraordinary claim you are making.

[Nightmove-ghostlands (Nightmove)]

LFR is fine. It’s LFG for cross server raiding above LFR that was bad for the game.

[Selith-thorium-brotherhood (Selith)]

Indeed!!!

I have more fun level toons then I do trying to deal with this Lame RNG which screws me over and over…

Leveling by same standard is so much fun 1-110 110-120 is more boreing but still pretty fun compared to trying to get gear by praying to RNG Jesus.

[anon2121503]

I don’t need to show you any numbers, you can tell there’s a crowd that is not happy with LFR and those that quit over it are gone long time ago.

I see no logic behind your claim that a great many players who enjoyed the game otherwise have quit because of the existence of LFR. And definitely not any numbers. That’s quite an extraordinary claim you are making.

yeah…its entirely based in his emotionalism.
Blizzard knows the numbers.
IF millions were quitting BECAUSE of LFR it’d have been dust in the wind long ago

[Esdeathx-area-52]

Open general discussion forums
Browse how many LFR needs to go threads,andgod knows how many get deleted.

Now sit, I’m tired of your incessant yelling.

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

You defeated them? Bro you serious. Your taking Saturday evening on the forums abit to serious.

Lighten up Francis.

[Orsobovus-zuljin (Orsobovus)]

Sounds like you are the one who was triggered. I guess you can find support among the millions of toxic elitists who had to leave the game and go somewhere else more to their liking after LFR was forced on them at gunpoint.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

GC > Bashiok

Are you that dense?