Hey I am fine with that, so why all the outcry to remove the content we can do, which the gear does match up for, since it is lower Item lvl then Normal.
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agreed.
Its that 1% who are in here incessantly whimpering about LFR…although they are pretty much all LFR heroes themselves…which is kinda hypocritical.
I figure most REAL raiders are out raiding right now instead of in here trying to get the ego stroked by insulting LFR players.
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No, you have to be good.
Not everyone can materialize at end game ready to raid. Not everyone has had a decade or more experience with it.
It used to be there were things to do for people who weren’t ready to raid. If they got bored with those things, they could move on to harder content. Now there aren’t, and playing less isn’t going to turn a fresh boost into a mythic raider.
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I think you think your debate skills are better than they actually are.
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The whole purpose of LFR is to let people gear up, and let those who otherwise can’t do other raiding for a variety of reasons do so.
My internet has gotten substantially worse over the years. It used to only having 9k latency hard locks after 9pm. Then as the DSL line continued to deteriorate, those hard locks became more common more frequently. The raid I was in worked around them, we were still the top guild on our server. Basically, outside of crappy internet, I was a reliable even tempered player who was always there and filled a certain niche. I’d never get angry, rage, or quit on a wipe. I’d never yell at people. Wiping is part of progression after all.
However, both of the last two raid groups I was in, one doing the equivalent of mythic level stuff and one was super casual, I had some pretty bad experiences.
Nepotism: When the other members of the healing corps are officers, and the raid leader has a new girlfriend that is a healer, or when the raid leader’s boyfriend wants to switch to his paladin but there’s already three and one is the main tank and the other is the raid leader, guess who is the odd man out?
Screaming: In both cases, the nepotistic (I don’t think that’s a word) individuals had screaming problems. They knew that screaming didn’t sit right with me, and they exploited that. I was literally dreading raiding and having to take a benzo to do raids.
Meter maids: Both of the raging officers were also meter maids. In the casual group, the officer with the girlfriend was a dps that would continually scream at everyone. He targeted me as the person to be eliminated in favor of his gf, he used numbers as his excuse. In the casual group, the girl with the boyfriend would scream at people–she had left the guild and the server on her holy paladin to run with a mythic guild and was always on my case for not having numbers equal to hers despite the gear disparity. In both cases, one night I decided I’d crush the meters and I did, but we all wiped and the other healers freaked out because I was no longer doing my thing, the thing that worked for us.
Mythics and arenas are also largely inaccessible to me. My internet locking up would cause a wipe.
With LFR I can queue when I feel like it, if I feel like it, on any character I feel like. I don’t have to worry about ragelords yelling at me on voice chat, meter maids can’t kick me, and I don’t have to worry about nepotism.
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The only thing I’ll add is I don’t think it’s the actual 1% who are the whiners. The real deal mythic raider doesn’t care. They realize LFR has no bearing on their game. It’s the wannabes who feel marginalized who run their mouth.
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Too bad yours are even worse than mine. You had 0 facts provided and had to get that done for someone else(for Bashioks post).
Also stop trying to tell me what I think and I can’t think.
You did nothing again to provide factual arguments to the table, but wildly flame and troll while frothing at the mouth the whole time.
I don’t even think you can walk,let alone dance.
Why is it acceptable to go into any group content knowing you are not going to help the group. If all 25 people in LFR had 9000 ping nothing would die. He’s getting carried in LFR which is just accepted at this point. I just feel like an ounce of effort should be required for endgame content.
Glad you said it. Ive been afraid to for fear of suspension. Cant go saying truth in here.
yeah…‘wannabes’…thats what Id say if I felt free to say what I think.
Theyre the ones with 8 pages of LFR achievements who finally got into a real raid with the big dogs, and now theyre somewhere in the middle where they arent as good as the big dogs of raiding, but in order to boost that ego feel like its necessary to rail on LFR players.
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No. The purpose of LFR is to let people see the raid.
imo LFR shouldn’t drop gear so people who don’t want to do it aren’t incentivized to do it. That would remove a lot of the complaining.
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Myself I have never considered LFR true end game content. I have looked at it, as a watered down way for casuals to see the story line. Which is in the true end game content.
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So the real reason comes out now.
You had a bad experience and now you’re accusing all guilds of the same thing.
Again personal reasons are your motive,not the objective health of the game.
Exposed.
YOU are the ones claiming LFR harms the game, son.
YOU are the ones with burden of proof.
BLIZZARD has the numbers of participation.
IF LFR was harming the game theyd have removed it by now.
Just…common…sense.
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There are plenty of YouTube videos you can watch for the story while you do your rotation on a target dummy. Do we really need LFR when you can just do that?
Exactly.
YOUR hatred of LFR…which Im betting you have a long history with…doesnt dictate that LFR is harming the game.
End of discussion.
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I seriously doubt that if they removed gear from LFR and people who are currently doing it to get gear that you would stop complaining. You would just find some other way you want to gut it to make it unpalatable to people who do it.
The existence of LFR long precedes the lame “see the raid” rationalization that the devs came up for before gutting it in WoD. If the only people doing it were people who only wanted to see the story, and they did it only once, there would be no raids for you.
People who do casual content overwhelmingly subsidize the development of more expensive content like raids.
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heh…what do you know. I just looked and yup…LFR and NOTHING else in your profile.
Irony?
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You have yet to provide a single way LFR harms the game.
Exposed.
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WoW now I have to experience watching and not by doing the story. Which is part of what an MMORPG is all about. You just turned me off from this game totally. I am cancelling my sub and leaving, due to how toxic you elitists are. Guess you got your wish dude. You will never see or here from me again. BYE…
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I already answered this 100 posts ago. And specifically to you nonetheless. I feel like I’m talking to a person with split personality.
You’re also singling out quotes from my posts in order for the context to be taken in a completely wrong way.
Post on your main.
I dare you troll.