LFG Tool / RDF

When they said “we’re looking at adapting the retail lfg tool instead of providing RDF” I thought, hey, fine. That would do the trick. If I can see that Group A is looking for Nexus, Group B is looking for Utgarde, and I can click/signup as DPS on each, and the leader will see “Oh, this DPS just signed up, accept/decline” that would be fine. We could still play the game while getting the group together, instead of sitting in Dal, looking at a chat window, trying to figure something out.

That’s not what they did.

They simply made a whisper button. So, we STILL need to troll through chat to find groups, even though the tool (both originally, and as pitched as adapted for Classic) was meant to make group finding easier - without such reliance on chat.

Blizzard, my dears, please - just listen. This isn’t what we want. You’re not adding anything with this tool as-is, it just makes the current Bulletin Board addon a more “official” looking one in-game. We only use BB because it’s marginally better than using chat alone - but I’ve never seen anyone say “I love BB”. We want something better. Every content creator that has reported on the tool says it’s nowhere near as good as RDF. The vast majority of Wrath die-hards want RDF (even if just implemented later in the game cycle). If you don’t want us teleporting, fine, but let us still group through it. Or give us the full retail version, where we don’t need to whisper with a macro anymore. It’s pointless tedium.

The whole “you think you do but you don’t” was not an invitation to remove all fun and introduce only difficulty into the game. It was us telling you what we wanted, and you thinking you knew better. This is exactly the same thing. I’ve not seen any poll or any evidence that indicates the Classic playerbase does not want RDF. Every single bit of data I’ve seen says a majority of Classic players wants RDF. Nobody wants to sit in a city, wasting an hour in chat to run a 10-min heroic. That’s not fun. That’s not recreating the game as it was. That’s not good design.

Please, prove you care, and do something about this tool. As-is, it’s just pointless. People may use it, but it requires improvement at the very, very least. Stop trying to tell us that you know better what this community wants, especially when the community is telling you to do something different.

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Just made it to Level 73 on my new DK on the beta. Only one dungeon run so far though I queue in LFG each night I login.

Doesn’t seem like LFG is testing out very well on the Beta. Curious how Blizzard thinks it is going.

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This is 100% true there is no data to support that more people do NOT want the rdf. The RDF was fine, if you want to fix the social aspect of it, and solve the problem, add tweaks to the old system. Maybe add an opt in on server only, maybe add it the ability to not teleport and make people at least run there. Again what fun is it to lfg in chat channels, that does not build community, it makes the people with limited time miss out of groups and meeting new people because it takes so long to find the right classes. I know there is no sure way to make it work perfectly… However Wrath was intended as an expansion to make the casual players have more access to the game, 10/25 rdf, bring the player not the class (still need tank, heals and dps) so really your just hurting the whole point of the expansion… LFG tool sucks its trash… Just go back to the rdf, tweak it, add options to it… Add something so that each server can do a vote in game to open it to out of server or not… I mean really what does a random dungeon finder really take away besides wasted time for casual players lfg.\

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This is the absolute truth and what it boils down to. For some us it’s hard to waste what limited free time we have in chat instead of playing with other people looking to enjoy the same game you are.

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Blizzard is doubling down with today’s post, about no dungeon finder. If you look at the forums 99% of feedback on this new garbage tool is that the player base hates it. But, apparently what the player base wants doesn’t matter cause DaDdY bLiZzArD kNoWs BeSt.

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The anti RDF crowd doesn’t realize how bad the LFG tool is, but they will. It’s astonishingly awful.

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I will admit if the tool was something like what we have in shadowlands I probably could be swayed to give it an honest try. I of course want RDF but a tool like the retail one would show me they mean well in the promise of making a solid tool.

Instead we got the TBC garbage tool with a EXTREMELY small increase in functionality. Then they FORCE you to use this tool to even use the LFG channel which tells you its already set up for forced success metrics. No matter what it will be a wild success because they can point to EVERYONE IS USING THE TOOL because even talk in the channel to use the addons we all will use instead you have to join the terrible new tool.

Give us RDF or give us a REAL tool Blizzard. Not one that has a gimmick forced success metric for you to put on the charts during your pat yourself on the back staff meetings. Give us a REAL and QUALITY tool people want to use. It is just madness that anyone thinks this is going to be anything but an artificial success because of forced participation.

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I’m looking forward to what updates they have for the LFG tool and I’m hoping it’s more like what the retail LFG tool is like.

I’m really glad there will be no RDF. I don’t think RDF is good for the game at all.

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Blizz won’t listen at this point, the only thing they will hear is their profit margins going down the drain from people unsubbing due to this garbage, it’d be great if we could make our own lfg channel to subvert their forced tool.

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It’s not going to happen. Unfortunately RDF can’t make blizzard money like faction changes can which is why faction changes are back but RDF isn’t.

Instead of trying to convince blizzard to put RDF in which they won’t, provide suggestions to make LFG better. My suggestion was a teleport to dungeon button for all pre wrath dungeon content because without it, many dungeons are simply not accessible to low level players like ragefire chasm for alliance and deadmines for horde

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Link? Interested in what they said

They have no plans to add RDF. Woot!

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It’s a money decision. No time spent making sure RDF works saves money. Having a clunkier leveling experience promotes 70 boost sales, and makes money.

They see the writing on the wall for Classic. Dragonflight is going to be a large disruption, being so soon after Wrath launches. And nobody wants Cataclysm Classic, so it won’t be seen as financially viable.

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I’m an anti-RDF person, and I also agree the tool is not shaping up to what was expected. It’s essentially the same tool in TBC Classic with some new graphical updates.

I was expecting the retail LFG tool, and this isn’t it. The TBC Classic LFG tool has been working for me while leveling my alt, so its not entirely bad. But still, disappointed they tried to make it look like retail, without actually changing the tool.

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Ahh Blizzard Greed, now i understand… And I am guessing most of the “Fanboys” of the NO RDF are all employees of Blizzard or brainwashed players who want it to fail just because they think blizzard will love them more for their support… ahh enlightened…

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They would have saved more money scrapping the LFG tool project as a failure and redirecting the remaining budget they saved by scrapping it before exhausting the budget to use elsewhere.

Like fixing a broken down car. You think it will cost $10,000 to fix and half way through you realize that it will never run right even if you use all $10,000 to fix it. Do you waste the other $5,000 trying to fix it anyway or put it towards a new car?

I am pretty pro RDF, but if we got the tool from retail I would 100% be supportive of at least trying it out and seeing how it goes with an open mind. Mostly because it works and has some functionality.

Instead we got RDF taken away for something that is next to useless.

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Except it seems they have maybe 3 unpaid interns on the LFG tool team, and having clunky leveling will directly increase level 70 boost $ales.

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People are going to buy the boosts regardless. They don’t need to create an issue to tempt people to do it. They don’t need to make players suffer through another expansion looking at a LFG window for hours to only give up frustrated and do something else. Look at tbc launch, the amount of people with multiple accounts just at the start for profession cooldowns was unreal.

People wanting to reroll classes but don’t want to spend a week getting to 70 just to START wotlk content.

The examples go on and on and on. I’d be willing to bet a good 30% of the player base already plans on purchasing said boost, if there was a way for us to confirm those stats I’d gladly make that bet.

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Not when they open up unlimited 70 boosts. It’s coming.