LFD kick abusers have made the WoW experience miserable for my friend

frankly you are doing them a favor by ignoring them “son”

you certainly dont act civilly

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another alt added to the ignore list.

Apparently, there’s one big conspiracy, where everyone who disagrees with Lio is 1 person on many accounts (despite me having been ‘ignored’ by Lio on 3 different characters, and insulted by at least 7).

Any ignoring is just until enough people actually ignore them that this problem child routine stops working, and they hop on a new character.

Either that, or they just aren’t emotionally mature enough to accept that other people can have different opinions, and think that an appropriate response to others having said opinions is this week long tantrum they’ve been throwing.

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I may be missing context (and I’m not going to read all of these comments) but I agree with this comment 110%. I’m not sure why you’re getting push back, but again, maybe I am missing context.

People should be able to learn in stupidly ez clap normal and heroic dungeons. Where else is someone supposed to learn them? Or do ppl want ppl to stick to the ai dungeons now? What if someone wants to play with real people?

If you’re mad about someone being slow or dying in ez dungeons you need to come back to reality and do some soul searching. I would automatically assume it’s a kid or maybe someone new, has a handicap or isn’t doing well emotionally or physically that day, ect.

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Part of the problem with that, is that in N/H, mobs very often die before actually doing anything. All it takes is the goodie bag to bribe 1 over-geared player into queueing, and no mechanics are actually seen by anyone.

As for the context behind that post, it’s just Lio making up strawmen to tear them down.

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So, which is it?

I hope you realize it’s you you’re stuffing in a box, right? But I do appreciate it, I’d rather run with folks that know what they are doing

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Does it? Thats interesting. So its not an unknown concept.
Oddly in wow the way the rules are set up is the abusive players can abuse the system and their victim is the one who gets punished…ie they kick someone over their transmogs, for example, and now that person is punished for doing nothing wrong and has to sit out for half hour before they can run a dungeon again. lolol

When i first started playing WoW CS was probably the BEST customer service of any company Ive ever had to deal with in my adult life.
I was so sorely impressed with their representatives every time I needed help with something.
Now its so horrible I dont even bother filing tickets over stuff I should because I know their lazy response will be that auto form letter crap…and Im NOT spending days going back and forth before i get a human being involved.
Riches to rags…

I can only imagine how theyve cut GMs in the game as well.

The vastness of WoW is what keeps me playing.
Even WoW bad content is still better than 99% of all other games out there.
I mean I love the ES Series, but Id honestly prefer playing shadowlands vomit for the simple reason that while SL sucked, the color and personality of this game fits my preferences more than the ES series does.

ironically we’re all 18 and over here for the most part.
Youd THINK ADULTS wouldnt have to be told not to abuse their fellow gamers and use blizzards ALLOWANCE to kick for any reason as their scapegoat to behave like THEY have CHOSEN to behave where other players, likely newbies, are concerned

you can see how they defend the kick abuse in here.
its disgusting. These are REAL people trying to LEARN this game and they cant be bothered to spend another 3 minutes in a low rent NO challenge dungeon to help someone learn their spec a little bettter.

disgusting behavior

Funny, I thought this was about a panda in a bad mog…

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No because that’s real life and not a computer game.

Edit: However, going with the grocery store example, if the guy bringing the carts into the store keeps hitting people’s car, even after he’s been told to be more careful? Yeah I would demand he be removed from his position.

Or the cashier from your example kept giving back the wrong amount of change? Yeah he needs to be gone.

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Maybe more people would offer help if wow didn’t have a problem with militant willfully bad players, who get offended at any suggestion that they could improve (the “YOU DON’T PAY MY SUB” type).

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youre not missing anything. This has been an ongoing issue in here and its the same list of personal haters I have who will hop on ANY topic Im posting in to rail opposition to anything Ive posted just because they evidently have nothing else to do with their time. lololol

Theyll all be very quick to scream “MUH MMO’z” reminding you its MULTI player game if you want more solo content to get away from their mistreatment of new players trying to learn to play the game. lol…and as you can see by their responses in here, they’ll scapegoat blizzards ALLOWANCE of kicking for any reason to justify THEIR misuse of the feature to kick someone for something that doesnt matter in the least as far as finishing a run goes.

What blizzard should do is remove the kick vote option entirely for leveling dungeons or any other brain dead easy content.
It can ALL be run with 3 or 4 players anyway on a bad day. lol.

The good thing is MOST wow players arent so miserable that theyre kicking people for no reason at all and MOST that Ive encountered are good people who will help new players.

So this case with the OP, I hope they just keep trying and not let a small handful of disgruntled sorts ruin the game for them.

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Sometimes righteous anger is justified, especially when you’re attacked and talked down to by people who are actually being uncivil.

Except that’s not what’s happening here.

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When I do a new expansion or even an old one I am unfamiliar with I will do some research on the mechanics before I try to run it in LFD. Run all the dungeons first on the lowest difficulty as the mechanics matter less until you are familiar with them. Watch a video on the dungeons.

I know it’s been discussed in the past but now we are into AI territory why can there not be a learn mode for all old content.

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Please scroll through this 500+ post train wreck and count how many times Liolang used this term, and the rest of us.

FINALLY, a solution was posted!
And that idea was how it was before the vote kick, it was the abuse of that system that led to the vote kick.

But it is interesting to see how far the cars tumble down the rails of this train wreck.

So all queue content, because only “brain dead easy” content is allowed to have an auto-queue.

personally, its more laughable contempt.
people who abuse their fellow gamers, then scapegoat blizzard, havent earned enough respect to be worthy of my anger

Not that you’d know anything about doing that…

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I disagree about removing the vote kick because some awful person could troll (make no mistake I love being silly) but I could see removing vote to kick being a big yikes.

And Ye, most wow players aren’t so miserable thankfully, but all it takes is one to sour it for others.

I hate the contract because I feel like people talk so much less now. I remember people chatting it up more in zones and that is virtually gone.

I always digress but the older I get the more relaxed I am (make no mistake, not with everything :sweat_smile: - still working on myself). But yeah, I thought the older we got the wiser we become- not only about knowledge of how to do stuff but how we treat and interact with other humans, I figured we become more relaxed, less of an ego about stuff, things like that, and it’s shocking to me to see that isn’t the case. Ig I am a fool in ways.

Anywho, idk why anyone would give ya push back. Hugs to the cute panda bear :people_hugging:

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its not righteous anger. its being a troll. the only person to blame is herself.

the manner in which she conducts herself by being patronizing, condescending , lacking self awareness, unable to listen to what other people are saying, and being a petulant child is exactly what i would consider uncivilized

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