Oh ok, this is just a Horde vs. Alliance thing. I can get down with that.
Lok’tar ogar, friend >:)
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The MG-RP community has a major population balance issue and in a game that’s based around inter-faction conflict (and clashes in culture) that creates a scenario where inter-faction roleplay is difficult and server events are heavily skewed in one direction.
According to the latest date, there is an 80-20 split between factions - there isn’t anything wrong with making people aware of this issue and giving players more intensive to play their Horde alts. Otherwise this server will become basically an Alliance simulator and will hugely detract from people who enjoy Horde RP as their staple.
If guilds want to make the faction change - for whatever reason - then that’s their choice, and I’m sorry if you’ve been affected by that in some way… but that’s not really something you get to change. It happens both ways all the time, especially with the advent of Allied Races or story development within each faction. After the Burning of Teldrassil, there was a huge movement of people moving away from the Horde. This picked up again the other way during the time Saurfang and Zappy-Boy started becoming prominent features in the Horde story-line.
I get that you might just not like the Horde, and that’s fine. That’s your choice, but other people are allowed to want a better RP balance on this server…
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When people look for a server to transfer to, they’re going to prefer a server that has some semblance of balance. A lot of people want half Alliance, half Horde, so that world PvP and RP events, all that stuff has equal representation. A fair chance for both sides. It the way that World of Warcraft was meant to be played.
Moon Guard has always been Alliance dominated and I’m not trying to change that. I want to keep it that way. But there is a snowball effect. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. The scales tip too far and it starts to get really difficult to keep balance. There are WoW servers that have literally 98% one faction and only 1000 people playing the other. They have no guilds, no one to talk to. The last straggling survivors are all solo players. Is that a healthy server? To me it’s not. Moon Guard is my home and I want it to thrive.
It’s not wrong to want people to have pride in their community, and make it better. To want people to look after each other and work towards goals that benefit the whole community, not just the individual. I’m not getting anything out of this, no reward. I’m not in it for power or prestige.
But I do get whispers from random strangers thanking me for my efforts to improve MG Horde. People want this, they just don’t know how to tackle the problem. It’s not a one person job.
Admittedly, not everyone wants MG Horde to prosper. I understand that. If a small number of people want to try and impede our efforts to what…increase the population of the Alliance? Well, I can’t stop them. People are entitled to think what they like and some are quite bitter, for reasons that have nothing to do with me. I can only hope that these few people don’t represent the majority.
I know they don’t, no matter how loud and vocal the opponents are. People want to see MG Horde on its feet, doing well. The amount of interest in this thread only proves that point.
EDIT: I agree with you Telrenoir. The opposition to MG Horde is not about us as a community of roleplayers. It’s all about the fear that Alliance will lose the last stronghold that they have, when so many other servers have become Horde dominated. People need to let go, and stop worrying. MG Alliance is safe. It is thriving. But a healthy, balanced community will attract more people overall. Not just Horde, but Alliance too.
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Bad time to comment maybe. I am willing to create something new. All in an effort to help, but mostly have some fun.
I could roll a Zandalari Bladeguard, assigned to working under Zul before everything went bad. Zandalari Death Knight, fallen Prelate killed by Alliance forces during the raid. Or, Zandalari Monk, battle-bard of the lowest caste.
Idk if mentioning those tidbits is helpful or needed.
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Wonderful!
Not at all. If something new sounds fun that’s what this thread is about - living on the wild, red side of Moon Guard.
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Does sound fun. I’d love to help out wherever I can fit. Just don’t want to intrude with an idea that’s already covered, or just not needed.
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Make what you want my dude. Trying to find something that’s not covered or not needed is an achievement in itself. We’re pretty accepting over here. 
You do you!
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I guess me RPing in the open world while I’m leveling alts never happened then?
As much as it seems you have gotten some not-so positive feedback to your reaction to this, that virtual dating comment made me go yikes too. I came here from seeing the title and thinking maybe I’ll go it another whirl with an alt and see if I can throw myself into some roleplay. That comment made me go 
though.
Edited for typos.
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I have to agree that that comment was probably counterproductive if the goal is to get Alliance players to try the Red side of things. It doesn’t come off as sounding like “Hey, give us a try”, but instead “Hey, stop doing that stupid thing you’re doing and give us a try”. If the goal is to poke fun, then, that’s one thing, but choosing to include that in a recruitment drive is a curious decision.
…what’s a bit more troubling than that comment is the fact that it’s not being addressed. It’s being dismissed as something to just get over. Reading the comment and the context of things didn’t make me think they were talking about Mega Gomorrah the Lion’s Pride Inn, but rather Alliance roleplaying in general.
The intent of the comment should probably be addressed. While I respect the efforts of this overall goal (it does get a bit scarce in Orgrimmar), that kind of comment is not serving that goal. If anything, it’s pushing people away.
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I can’t really speak for anyone else here expect for myself, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t feel like dating/romance RP is something that anyone inherently has a problem with; or at least shouldn’t have a problem with.
Up until about two months ago, I’d been a purely Alliance (role) player for about six years and in that time I’d never even came close to entering into dating/romance orientated roleplay. Sure it was there, same as it’s there on Horde as well, but certainly wasn’t a ‘simulator’ by any means and I highly doubt that anyone actually thinks that. It seems like a poor choice of words for something that must be a mistake considering it isn’t even true.
My time here on Horde has been shorter then some, but I’ve enjoyed this space more in two months then I did in the last two years on Alliance. That’s not to say that I didn’t enjoy it. In my six years on Alliance I ran guilds, hosted events and fully involved myself in the community. It’s where I met my fiancée and made memories that I will probably keep for a lifetime.
But, the themes of struggle and triumph, hard-won redemption over ones history seem to mesh with me better then what I had experienced before. The environments and personalities seem raw and beautifully flawed. The characters I’ve made on Horde mean more to me and I’m more excited to play them.
It’s a community that I’m growing to love and I want to see flourish. MG has been my home in this game for a long time, and I’ve always felt that a better faction balance would only help to boost it’s appeal and create more opportunities for unique and interesting RP.
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I think it’s less the idea that someone would have a problem with it than the fact that the comment made it seem like all (or a vast majority) of Alliance role play is summed up via a “just a virtual dating community”. (Incidentally, the “just” is what makes it sound like someone does have an inherent problem with that.)
It’s a very specific idea being discussed. If it was a poor choice of words, than that should probably be addressed. I haven’t really seen that, though. Nor have I seen it retracted.
I’ll admit that at this point, I have more than a passing curiosity as to what that was supposed to mean. I imagine others do, as well.
Again, I both applaud and agree with the overall goal. But…that’s kind of a glaring thing.
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I apologise to any who were offended by my comment. It was wasn’t intended as insulting, but rather, to reflect a different kind of atmosphere that exists when RPing on Horde. Please read Telrenoir’s comment, which as I have already mentioned, clarifies what I meant in a more tactful way:
People should not come to Horde expecting the same kind of roleplay. That is the context of my comment. I used other analogies as well to try and get my message across, but that is the only one that was picked and plucked out.
The word ‘simulator’ was not mine and added by someone else interpreting my comment.
We are all guilty of feeling sensitive at some point or another. To the same degree, anyone saying “MG Horde is dead” will get a rise out of us because that is a cliche we are trying to avoid.
In the same context I feel that my comment also came very close to striking an Alliance cord - That the Alliance only does ERP. That is rubbish, and we all know it! But that’s what some people from other servers think, and it hurts.
And don’t think only Alliance players are affected by that reputation either. In random groups, players from Moon Guard will be ridiculed, whether they are from Alliance or Horde. Just last night I was leading a warfront, and one of the sassy players started say “Yes, daddy (They’re from Moon Guard, they like that)”. I rolled with it, and laughed and said “Yes, son.”
I played on Alliance for many years (maybe like 6?) before switching to Horde. It had many fun and interesting storylines. I was in a Defias-type guild and met lots and lots of interesting people. But, the usual scenario happened: Some drama went down and I took a break from the game for about 6 months. When I came back, all my friends had gone. I started a new demon hunter (Aquillorae), and it was through some random tavern roleplay that I met some other demon hunters that asked about public RP events and calendars.
I looked around but I couldn’t help my new friend out. So I decided to make a calendar myself. The original calendar, which I ran for a year before becoming overwhelmed and frustrated with the new forum changes, was for both Alliance AND Horde. I wanted to help the community, because I didn’t really have much else on at the time.
When I started compiling all the events, it was then I realised the huge disparity between Alliance and Horde, and how much trouble the Horde was in. In my time here, I’ve come to a sad conclusion: when you do nothing about a problem, it actually gets worse, it doesn’t stay the same. The slide towards a single faction server may actually be inevitable at this point.
I am sorry that my comment offended people. I do not dislike the Alliance, and I’m sorry if it came off that way. I would not have created a discord server to support Alliance players trying out Horde if I had some kind of OOC problem with Alliance. We’re all in this together; we’re in the same boat. In IC terms, BfA was a faction war, but OOC many, many people play both sides. I want us to be able to be able to have characters on both sides of the fence without having to change servers.
I do feel like my words are constantly critiqued to find any kind of hole, and that particular comment was targeted. It was a poor choice of words, and I admitted that if you read down a few posts. There was no point in trying to change or delete my post (as others would have done), because it had already been quoted. People make mistakes; I am far from perfect.
I don’t mind if you choose to dislike me because you didn’t like that comment, fair enough. But don’t hold it against MG Horde. I don’t represent the entire community, just as my guild is not the only guild. I am one person brave enough to be outspoken, to try and highlight an issue so we can do something about it.
Or we can just tuck faction imbalance under the rug and let it take its course. It’s up to you.
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The only, ONLY, way I would RP on Horde is it would have to be my RP main’s character but completely different as she is a Forsaken Mind Slave… I’d be RPing two characters too. X_X
What is the tolerance on this in Orgrimmar?
It’s not that uncommon to have a proxy for another character. This is Moon Guard. You’ll find more tolerance for creative RP ideas here than any other server.
Mrm… This is a tempting idea… How is the Horde with RP and character levels? Some people download some add-on that ignores people under a certain level. :< What the heck! You are on a RP realm, every level should be welcome!
Plus I’m holding out for Shadowlands to level… Even with this buff I cannot… motivate myself enough to level something other than a DH.
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I do not think this is faction related and merely just a consequence of being on an RP realm. For every delightful level 20 RPer, there is another d!ckhead level 20 RPer who ruins everything by causing a ruckus or ghosting you mid-RP.
Levels are a clear (even if unfair) way to designate your degree of investment in a character, especially if its accompanied by a barebones profile.
I mean…
I literally have 7-9 para in my about, artwork for my level 48 here I am posting on… Even paragraph long first glances. Guess I won’t be rolling Horde at this time. Maybe in Shadowlands… 
Then it doesn’t sound like you’re in the category of people who appear to be “hit or miss”, in my opinion. A level 48 with a decent chunk of work in the profile is only really limited by transmog options in terms of RP.
No matter where you go, there will be SOME judgment attributed to your in game character be it level, gear, rating, etc. In my experience, I have not met anyone who uses addons to block communications from low levels on Horde MG. However, that does sound like something that would be used to block spammers as those are overwhelmingly low levels, which are more commonplace on Alliance. Idk, I’d have to look into it.
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Yerp, people won’t let me whisper them, something about a BadBoy addon or something since I’m not high enough level? 
You want to RP but literally go against everything RP needs. Walk ups, whispers, IC and OOC interaction?
Gah…