Lets Talk - Trust Level 3

[Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord (Bipzi)]

I dunno why people actually want level 3. The ability to post pictures and links seems so…trivial?

Its also painful to watch people act like hall monitors.

An example, I know at least 1 person that wishes they had it so that they could post some fan art stuff they have been working on.

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

They are free to post links with the preformated text features.

[Eret-hyjal (Eret)]

Well since these are third-party forums and it seems like blizzard/3rd party techs have no intention to fixing any of the issues. I would say don’t hold your breath on any changes. These forums still allow unsub people to post.

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

I dunno why people actually want level 3.

There’s a thread on the level 3 lounge asking just this question. Most of the answers are jokes because most of the folks with level 3 don’t give a fig about it.

Its also painful to watch people act like hall monitors.

Again, that’s really not the M.O. of level 3’s. Most level 3’s just spend a lot of time on the forums, reading, commenting, and leaving likes.

[Caraz-trollbane]

You have to do that for every 100 days I believe. The only other thing would be not coming on here for 50/100 days or a forum vacation or having your post reported by 5 people I believe.

[Valarien-area-52 (Valarien)]

Again, that’s really not the M.O. of level 3’s. Most level 3’s just spend a lot of time on the forums, reading, commenting, and leaving likes.

I agree with you. I’m just saying its painful when someone is acting as if they are applying for a mod position, level 3 or not lol

[Rikar-haomarush]

The reason given was “stalking and calling out”.

Yep, I got hit with a ban once for saying in a similar meaning that, “you don’t have to hit your hand with a hammer to know it hurts”. Of course I was making a very logical and successful line well thought out logical post refuting that removal of flying was about immersion.

And in one fell swoop all my post were gone and deleted because I got a 3 day ban, which means all the post you ever made gets deleted instead of a forum suspension. Suspension you get to keep your post.

[Mifuné-emerald-dream]

Pretty sure I got my TL3 back after being inactive in the forums for a bit. But yeah, 20k posts read is excessive. I feel like once you have it, you should have it unless you do something despicable like trolling.

[Vixie-burning-blade (Vixie)]

That’s too many requirements to fulfill.

I just want to be able to post whenever I “must” and read all your sometimes hilarious/informational/groan-worthy posts.

[Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord (Bipzi)]

Nah, can’t be…that’s ALL I do, read read read. Okay, I post a lot too since I can’t shut up.

They don’t send out an email or anything about this tho. I don’t care but now I’m curious. lmao

Sounds like you are starting to agree with me regarding the lack of transparency. lol. If you’ve been keeping up your read count, then you will probably never know what you ran afoul of if Blizz doesn’t tell you. You can’t look this stuff up, and now it’s gonna eat on your brain forever and ever. It’s like a seed has been planted, and it’ll grow.

It’s easy to say it doesn’t matter when you HAVE TL3, but lose it? Well… viewpoints change a bit.

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

Again, that’s really not the M.O. of level 3’s. Most level 3’s just spend a lot of time on the forums, reading, commenting, and leaving likes.

I agree with you. I’m just saying its painful when someone is acting as if they are applying for a mod position, level 3 or not lol

Yes in this culture of disrespect and people being proud of pretty much the worse it’s really hard that people act civil. There is nothing wrong about being civil on the internet and people don’t understand why they aren’t respected when they aren’t ready to show some respect.

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

My last suspension they didn’t even send me an email. Had to put in a ticket for them to tell me just a general “trolling” response. No clue what post or what I said, that was all I got.

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

I have 83k posts read. That’s more than 20k, no? I dunno and I’m not gonna go grind giving Likes and crap. >__<

I was just comparing your forum stats to mine, and you have higher numbers in almost every category. My guess is either you’re just short a few reads (since it’s a rolling total) or some obnoxious folks reported you for being too cute or something.

[Eret-hyjal (Eret)]

A person perhaps posted a question asking why a Community manager profile and posts were hidden on this forum. The thread maybe or maybe not got deleted and the person perhaps or perhaps not received a ban with no reason given.

Somthing like that would never happen

[Brutalistica-greymane (Brutalistica)]

Well I am glad other gaming forums don’t follow it. I suppose whoever is in control does this type of stuff. Blizzard recently been oppressing a lot of their concepts depending what it is. Trust level is one of them.

[Syegfryed-tol-barad (Syegfryed)]

the requirements to maintain the trust level 3 are the worst imo

i passed a few weeks busy and when i came back i lost it, can’t update my ogre megathread, and it seems an eternity to get it back

[Cashcollecta-emerald-dream (Cashcollecta)]

Syegfryed. Here is what you can do. Its not perfect solution, but it helps.

1. Get OBS broadcaster(totally free)

2. Use it to take 1 second video of an image.

3. Upload it to youtube or twitch as unlisted.

4. Save it to a online library of videos for easy access.

This way you can at least post images that can be visible immediately to people seeing them.

[Malvalen-sargeras (Malvalen)]

I lost my TL3 because I didn’t read enough forum posts over the last 3 months. Still pretty bummed out about it, but I don’t really have that kind of time or patience.

I don’t understand why I have to be on the forums so frequently to be considered “trusted” when I have a spotless history otherwise.

[Atalanta-trollbane (Atalanta)]

At this point talking about high elf is considered trolling/spam. And high elf people should just go on the rp section. That’s my bit about it.

I think the problem is that Blizzard has unlocked and extended those threads repeatedly, indicating that they don’t think it’s spam.

Honestly, the forum system is developed by another company. That’s pretty common place, of course, with most companies just using software not actually developing it in house.

It sounds, to me, like the software either isn’t implemented in a way that allowed them to prevent a thread from being reported, or the software isn’t actually designed to allow it. So that even if Blizzard unlocks it, the system auto locks it again. I’d bet that they can either have auto lock on, and have to manually unlock every thread that’s not a problem (but mostly leave them alone), or have it off and have to handle thousands of reports daily manually.

Ultimately, the problem is that any minority opinion can be considered spam if the only definition is that at least 5 people have to disagree with it. In fact, at that point, almost anything could be considered spam at that point. The system just isn’t elegant enough to handle dislike vs spam.

Just like how the dislike button was “supposed to combat trolling” and was then used to hide well intentioned posts. It sounds good on paper, but a self-governing community without a leadership system to look towards is going to tend towards anarchy, which I’d argue is where we are with reporting and the like.

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

the problem is that any minority opinion can be considered spam if the only definition is that at least 5 people have to disagree with it.

It’s one thing to have an opinion about something, that doesn’t mean you should share it As for the flagging system for sure it’s not perfect, but it leads to a user moderated forum. Now there are problems to that, but it’s still clearly better for me than old forums that were even more prone to trolling/spam.

I think what we got is not too bad of a deal. The high elf subject is tricky, but they still had that subject adressed in a Q&A and I think it’s time they move on to the rp section.