Lets Talk - Trust Level 3

To the Almighty ones at Blizz. I just wanted to speak with you regarding this thing you call Trust Level 3. Never have I seen a forum permissions system feel so bad as the one as you have currently implemented. So I would let to go over this with you, and hope (but sort of don’t expect) you can give us your thoughts about how this is implemented, and if you currently have any changes to modify it.

As it stands, the purpose "feels" like you want to allow good posters the ability to post images and links without you worrying that people are going to post "bad things" intentionally. The requirements to get and maintain this though, feel out of line with this purpose.

You have to maintain a read count of 20k posts on a rolling 100 day basis. Don’t read this much? You lose it. But seriously why? Just because they haven’t read 20k posts over the course of a month or so doesn’t inherently make a person less trustworthy than before. The number is just so high, you have people literally farming megathreads by scrolling without reading them. To reach this naturally, you would need somebody on the forums hours and hours and hours a day only reading new threads, never reviewing old threads. Is this really the intended behavior you wish to re-enforce?

Trolling. OK, I get it, sometimes discussions get heated. We are a group of people that are passionate about your games! If people where not passionate about your games, then you wouldn’t have the large playerbase that you do have. But you know what? Just because somebody doesn’t agree with somebody else and gets mad about it, doesn’t mean that they are trolling. There have been a LOT of people that have been hit with trolling violations that are simply pretty ridiculous. The problem with that is that means a permanent loss of your TL3 privileges over a disagreement or a simple joke, and you know what? That stinks, and it stinks bad. The nature of jokes sometimes means a person will be upset, it’s part of what comedy and jokes ARE. Do you really want to foster an environment that people are afraid of discussions and joking around because it might upset a few people even when the aim was never to troll?

And even with the above, there are more frustrations, such as it’s rumored that even if a moderator agrees you aren’t trolling and unflags your post, to many false flags could prevent you from getting TL3. Is that true or not? Regardless of if it is or isn’t, this doesn’t feel transparent at all. We can’t look at our profile to gauge our progress to attaining TL3 in any real capacity, nor can we see if there is some mark that will prevent us from attaining it in the future.

At the end of the day, I’ve seen a lot of people, including myself lose their TL3 when the position wasn’t abused and even your MVP’s have posted things more questionable in the past that today we get wacked for. There were several people that had TL3, but as it is, it feels like less and less people have it, like the amount of people that can retain it for whatever reason are falling in number to the point that it just becomes to feel like an unattainable thing. It is really starting to make people bitter Blizz, and I feel like it needs to be addressed.

That’s just my 2 copper pieces.

Edit: Some grammar things, but no I ain’t aiming for perfection neither.
Double Edit: Please don’t discuss specifics of why a moderator gave you a forum ban. It’s against the rules and likely will result in further action against you.

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Not at the really care about how much they trust me, but the whole trust level system and the way things can be abused is so broken right now it isn’t funny. I find it odd that a group of people can keep the high elf thread perma locked without consequence. It just shows they aren’t actually reading the reports they get.

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I have trust level 3 and probably I am one of the people that disagree the most with people on the forums. Yes bad jokes can be compared to trolling, and wouldn’t suggest you do them if you’re not doing them with “good taste”. Also if you’re ironic, please try to let it known with an emoji or anything, some people irony is hard to get when they simply write it and that you have to guess it.

Gotta add that trust level 3 “features” aren’t that big. There’s nothing to be that mad about it.

At this point talking about high elf is considered trolling/spam. And high elf people should just go on the rp section. That’s my bit about it.

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I know at least some of their moderators read the reports. One of my flagged posts was unflagged so at least some of the mods aren’t just blindly agreeing with flags, but I’m sure it’s really dependent on how the mod is feeling how closely they want to look into it.

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Are you really worried about an internal forum reputation? Common sense and decency is all you need on the forums.

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Only with your destruction of a transparent gif in such a horrid manner. My word why did you have to convert that to a JPG?

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I didnt think about the fact that imgur would convert it, and didnt want to be linking to random sites that may not be trustworthy here.

Oh well, such is life

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The joke is on you though because trust level 3 means you must be bound to the forums and on only one character. Should you decide to realm change, decide you want to talk another character or go inactive all that will mean nothing. Having trust level 3 is like making a deal with N,Zoth that you are bound to. You gain power, but loose a lot of your freedom.

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I had TL3. Lost it bc I was discussing a certain type of spam with someone so I tried to link some info related to the topic from the Mayo Clinic. I didn’t realize the url had a no-no word. It’s not one considered crude, it’s the p-word for the male anatomy. I got a warning that it was not allowed, and POOF, no more TL3.

I heard some people have trust level 3 on multiple characters.
Also I have no problem only posting on one character and would be fine if that was forum enforced atleast in non-rp sections.
And why would you go inactive when there are a lot of fun to have the forums, what you really want to go do more wqs?

I feel like it needs to be said, it’s against the rules to discuss specific forum actions, and I wouldn’t recommend it.

Meh. I mostly always only post on this character anyway. I don’t particularly constrained, even when I post on a character without the almighty Level 3 of Trust.

That said, the whole trust level system seems extremely dumb to me.

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I don’t even care about having trust level 3 and never did anything specific to try and get it. I also doubt I’ll ever realm transfer or switch mains, but even if I do I don’t really care about losing it either.

Edit; the trust system also seems dumb to me too, I have no clue how it works

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Still. These are limitations and bindings that someone who doesn’t care about trust level 3 does not have to worry about :slight_smile:

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You’re probably right. But I’d like to use it to draw light to what I think is poor policy. I’ll take the boop if they boop me.

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It’s also not true. I have had three strikes against my forum account (two were over turned when I fought them and the third I actually deserved and actually said I expected it to be coming) and yet here I am with level 3. As long as you are not a serial offender, you will be fine.

Or just do what i did.

I had TL3 on my priest. Nadis progress got reset when i server transferred. I just dont care.

Being able to post links helps in tech support, but i really haven’t had issues. I cant get the blockquote link thing working either so i dont use it.

Stop feeling you need it and its easier.

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Pretty sure it isn’t their system to modify, they just liked how it did on other blizzard games forums and wanted that system ported to the WoW forum.

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Lvl 0 = people who dare to have fun and tell jokes, or people who spammed / Posted nsfw content

Lvl 1 = Normal posters.

Lvl 2 = slightly above normal posters who have been active a bit longer

Lvl 3 = people who live eat breathe drink and sleep the forums.

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