Not everyone shares the same view about their recent decisions. Some say BC killed WoW, some say MoP did. Though their main reason for classic is legal opportunities over pservers, they would not progress the servers in the same fashion they did before or it would be meaningless to have retro servers.
I know. But there will be a mass exodus to the new shiny thing. Maybe that will be good. It also starts a whole slippery slope.
Blizzard has a good thing here: Retail, with its updates and expansions ad infinitum; or Classic, which is the same, and will always be the same. Add any more to that, and they go against the #nochanges that would make Classic work.
Anyway, itâs just my opinion. You donât have to agree. And over time, knowing Blizzard, theyâll screw up their good decisions. Ah well, live in the moment, enjoy the moment, because, like dumb time travelers, theyâll probably make the same mistakes all over again.
However, you shouldnât be the only one who gets to replay their favorite version of the game. No one group is more special than the other. If you get 2-4 years of classic only and BC is released then you had your time to enjoy what you wanted, now its time to let those who helped classic be successful enough to released the BC/WOTLK versions have their time.
And if Vanilla really is the end all be all for classic enthusiasts then there wont be as much a drop off as you think.
a year is no where near long enough. It took vanilla over 2 years to run itâs course. Classic should at mininum follow the same time table.
I personally have no interest in TBC. Thought it was horrible. They will either need to release separate servers where people can copy their characters to, or they will lose a lot of subscribers like me who will leave if they evolve the classic servers into TBC.
I do NOT want increased levels, or changes to class balance, etc. I look forward to knowing the classes i work so hard to level to end game will remain the same forever.
If they want to release additional âeventsâ for wow classic at the very end of all the progression or more level 60 content, i might be okay with that as long as the content is balanced around the existing classes etc and there are no changes to existing characters or balance.
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I enjoy many of their products, but I do question a lot of decision making and comments theyâve made.
Even if they release the separate servers, the release of those servers will affect the Classic servers. And, when that happens, the BC fans will get to replay their favorite version of the gameâŠat the cost of my favorite version.
So claiming that I âshouldnât be the only one,â as some admonishment of selfishness, while actually affecting not only what I want, but what I have, just so those BC fans can get what they want, absolutely negates the admonishment.
So be it. Hopefully youâll still have some community left to play with but looking forward to BC/WOTLK
Release independent. I donât see why classic / vanilla players should be forced to play an expansion they donât want. The private server that basically made classic happen are mainly vanilla private servers. TBC and WOTLK private servers are out there but no where near the fan base.
Funny thing is classic happened to combat private servers!
Same here.
What I suppose could be a cool thing to do is open a few âprogressive realmsâ where there would be Classic that would progress later on into BC and Wrath. I could see many people enjoying that like EQ and EQ2 does as an example.
But I would hope the Classic servers stay as they are. If they progress then into BC, I wouldnât any longer play. While I know many liked BC, I truly disliked it and have zero interest in doing that expansion again.
I was happy when level scaling in retail made it so you could skip it and go straight to Wrath. But even then, the systems and changes that BC brought in I wasnât a fan of and quit midway through.
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Funny thing is classic happened to combat private servers!
Correct, Hence why if they decide to release TBC, private servers will return to feed the addiction for players whom only want the vanilla experience.
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Not if classic vanilla is seperate from classic bc
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Not if classic vanilla is seperate from classic bc
Now we are back to my original comment of Release Independant. It would be the best method to avoid losing their fan base.
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I wasnt arguing your point about releasing them independently.
Not quite. At least not in my opinion . Classic became a reality when Blizzard saw how passionate the community was for it and saw a profit to be had. When an old WoW dev took a massive stack of papers to Blizzard headquarters where over 250k people signed a petition, they started looking more into it.
Private servers were a thing since Vanilla. So they waited over 10 years to do as you said, combat them by giving us Classic? While Iâm sure that definitely was part of it, I donât think it was the driving force behind it. But instead they saw a profit could be made and that people truly wanted Vanilla back.
I respect that opinion. Though I wonder why they said they would be ok if only 10 people played classic if protecting their IP wasnât the main driving force
Well, if Blizzard is to be believed, they have said its a passion project and they wanted to give this to the people really passionate for the old game who had been advocating and asking for this for so long. Many people didnât play private servers for various reasons, myself included, but hoped Blizzard would one day make legal Vanilla servers.
Iâm not saying it doesnât have anything all to do with protecting their IP, but I donât think it was the main reason. They made excuses for years as to why it couldnât, and more than likely wouldnât be done. But after the petition, the ex Vanilla dev and many others advocating for it, then they made it a reality.
I would be fine with this even though I would prefer some variation of âClassic+â.
They donât even need to go in a new direction exactly. We could even rehash Cataclysm as long as they didnât make the same mistakes again.
Cataclysm is when the class homogenization showed itself for the first time, when you got skills and passives when you picked a spec, this is when they started designing every specialization as if it were it own self contained class.
MoP is when they fully committed to that mindset is subsequently where the WoW we all know and love finally flat lined.
Thanks for pointing that out. I wasnât aware.
I think given that pservers vary by expansion, I donât see why Blizzard couldnât do that also.
TBC had fundamental changes that arenât classic inspired, WotLK also had fundamental changes that arenât classic inspired.
WotLK introduced LFG Auto Teleport shenanigans, easy to obtain epics, and easy raids (albeit they were fun)
TBC introduced flying, which screwed up how wPvP was approached. TBC started the truly neutral hub with all of its free portals ugh.
Both expansions invalidated all the previous world content (bad design) .
Classic #NoChanges or Classic #Plus should be the ideal direction of this game.