Legendary gripe

There are people having rational issues with the legendary and then there are people who think it’s egregious that they don’t have a legendary drop after 2 months.

Again, that would be a 13% drop rate, instead of the 1% you’re talking about.

There are absolutely better ways the legendary can be/could have been handled, especially in the communication department.

Thinking you should have a 457 legendary item that no other class can get after eight chances of looting it is delusional at best.

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Explain your stance, what you presented was a statement. Why is 2 months not a worthy amount of time for a legendary to drop? If you are taking issue with a 457 weapon dropping outside of mythic that is one thing, but that issue isn’t the one on debate since it already drops in lfr. This legendary has two paths for it going forward:

  1. Its bis for the entire expansion despite us likely going to 500+ ilvl by this time next year and evokers will be in the same position as rogues last expac and will be trying to push aberrus until the expansion ends, the people who lucked into their bis early will be able to perform at a level that is above the average tuning hotifx over other players due to luck.

  2. Its bis for just this patch for devasation and stays bis for preservation(not for hps) and augmentation for longer but still becomes replacable. Evokers who don’t get it are disadvantaged for the patch compared to those that have it, though fortunately that disadvantage doesn’t show up as easily in logs due to the pi style buff so perception of the class will be fine.

2 month is longer then some people stay subbed for a patch, wow is no longer the kind of game where this kind of thing makes sense. Not to say it was a bad idea, just that the implementation has to adapt to the times:
the mythic world first drop was hype and a fantastic move. Not elaborating that we didn’t have to do normal before heroic until lfr came out was not fantastic. Having the legendary drop rate on par with the mount drop is also not fantastic. Having it go off whenever someone in the region gets it so it looks far less rare then it actually is is also another problem point, in fact I think this is the one preventing them from changing the drop rate in the first place since if it became more common people would be screeching harder about the emote.

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Firstly, I think it’s absurd that it isn’t a guaranteed drop in mythic and have already stated that.

I’d even be fine with a guaranteed drop and weekly materials coming from the raid to craft it eventually, if it scaled.

Expecting an item outside of mythic raid that is higher ilvl than anything in it after 8 drop chances is crazy.

Their communication (or lack thereof) has been atrocious and the fact that people were clearing every difficulty for chances not knowing that it was a waste of time is ridiculous.

As it stands currently, though, people that aren’t clearing mythic regularly that already expect to have this are being a but irrational, in my opinion. For the level of content most people do, even getting it at the end of this tier would still be great.

They need to figure out a solution to all of this and they need to learn how to communicate with the player base, you won’t get any argument from me on that.

The quest, imo, should have all the parts available to it besides finishing crafting the item, for the people that care about the lore. I personally don’t, but I see no harm in designing this so that the quest isn’t gated by the drop.

But as it stands now, regardless of how bad people think the system is, it’s not a game breaking item and anyone not clearing mythic sark shouldn’t expect to have it already. You won’t find any content where a good group of players is requiring evokers to have this.

I’m also pretty sure the relative power level of the item is like 487 iirc, unless you have information on that changing. That still makes it bis for at least the next tier, but probably not the expansion. At any rate that’s somewhat semantic–I will be surprised if this isn’t made significantly more easy to get by the end of this tier. Once wowhead starts writing articles on things, blizzard typically responds.

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487 is for dev as far as I know. For healer its likely to just be used forever for m+ since its dps power gain, and I suspect it’ll be similar for augmentation too. I don’t think it will have same staying power with dev but if they do a few more changes to our mastery or damage it might stay longer.

Thinking there should be a deterministic path to earning an item steeped in your race’s lore. Or perhaps for another type of player… Thinking there should be a realistic way of earning a powerful weapon while it’s still relevant. I think those more accurately represent what folks are trying to communicate.

Also, the context of other classes is an interesting point, but it shouldn’t need to be a factor in a player’s goal setting.

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You literally nailed it, there should be a real way to earn the gem without winning a powerball lottery roll. People want to use the weapon while its still relevant, and while the quest line is tied to it.

Personally I only want it to because it does literally what AUG does and synergizes with the spec. The dps increase for me right now was somewhere between 10-15k for dev. The legendary does not make or break the spec btw came across a few already and seem to always be 10k over them in dps. The biggest slap in the face is when you see someone who made their brand new alt that they havent played all xpac and it randomly drops for them.

This week was the first time I actually got to see the gem go to someone, and it went to a brand new 300 ilvl player who paid for a boost in HC Aberrus. Out of 11 evokers he got it didnt even participate in the fight just hit the boss once and jumped.

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I mean look at Preheat. 13 Evokers, 7 days worth of farming and grinding. To finally get it. That seems messed up to me honestly.

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So he got it in 13 cracks that is still higher than 5% drop rate on a legendary. Seems good to me.

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If it was a legendary that wasn’t tied to lore or basically improving performance by as much in say M+…

The fact that he got it with 13 characters dosent mean 5% drop chance. That just means the evoker he got it on rolled better than the others.

Yah don’t need the legendary to clear 20 keys. The class isn’t tuned around having it so doesn’t break the spec. It’s a 5 minute quest chain. You will spend most your time. Farming the materials doing things you have done all patch. If lore was so important to you go watch a video.

I’m sorry but the argument “it has dracthyr lore ermahgerd!!!” Is a weak argument for why it should be higher drop chance. Most the players in here don’t min max their gear or push bleeding edge content. That legendary isn’t gonna fix y’all’s green parses

Oh my god… Are you really whining about having to kill the last boss of the raid to potentially get the item…? Are you kidding me? Thank GOD you dont have it.

Another week down 10 evokers in my raid no gem drop.

If I want to enjoy game content, go watch some else play it? Got any other gaming advice for us to ignore?

Show your work

Are you really coming into a post that is clearly about being salty and saying something like this? You are so original. Yes I am. Your point? Like you gonna bring anything to this conversation? Or just going to play the more emotional approach and think you are different for calling out ‘crying’?

Oh here we go. Bringing up parsing. Your arguments are weak homie. I haven’t seen you actually provide any evidence or anything useful to prove your point.

That is the problem. 10 evokers one raid, one kill, no drop. How many total in that raid?

Just did a run with 5 evokers in 2/4/12… and no lego