Layering: not rocket science

[Razaell-sargeras (Razaell)]

Fair warning, you’re engaging with the tin-foil hat, anti-layering troll brigade. It doesn’t matter how clear or reasonable your posts are, you won’t get anywhere with them. They’re not here for rational discussion, they’re here to bash Blizzard and layering, and they are not fully grasping reality.

Or, we just feel differently about layering than you.

Good thing you responded to us tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist nut jobs with a clear, rational, logical, articulate counter argument.

[Replica-draenor]

it wont be around long enough to matter

First of all, if you believe this, second of all, they’re vague about how long it will be around, so “long enough to matter” may be just that. You don’t have a timeline for phase 1, nor do you know if layering will actually impact people throughout phase 1 negatively or not. I guess your “tiny monkey brain” sees the number 1 and correlates that with brief?

[Fearoftdark-akama]

No one is complaining about the game version they’re using,

Not true I complain about that too. 1.12 nerfed a lot of dungeons to the ground and introduced carebear AV that we have today.

[Ohshiftson-area-52]

Not true I complain about that too.

I meant that they’re using 8.0 client. I didn’t mean 1.12. Please actually read what I responding to for the context:

We’re getting a close recreation of the original game using the 1.12 data set on the modern client.

[Fearoftdark-akama]

I meant that they’re using 8.0 client. I didn’t mean 1.12.

Ok, well that doesn’t really bother me so you’re right

[Razaell-sargeras (Razaell)]

More importantly, people will phase out of an iron forge raid because they want to work the auction house in peace.

You’re planning on getting a raid of 40 max level horde players together in three weeks to raid IF?

… I mean… I just don’t have a response for that level of unrealistic expectation. At least it made sense when you were complaining about pvping with other leveling players.

As for playing together, what are you doing so fast that a 15 minute cd is too long for you between groups? Questing? Pick a group and stick with it, 15 minutes is not that long and I would rather wait 15 minutes than wait five hours (hyperbole, I’m sure you’re familiar with it since you keep using it) with a group of four other people in the starting zone trying to get a tag on the right type of kobold to complete a quest so I can level the place.

Lol, you really don’t think there will be at least forty level 60s by the end of phase one? Okay bud, how much would you like to bet me?

If you think there won’t be issues with people connecting to the correct layer with multiple group invites, swaps, or whatever, you’re delusional. It’s already happened on the beta.

Getting large groups of players, guilds our friends or whatever, together and to the same layer will be a challenge.

[Razaell-sargeras (Razaell)]

LOL yeah the government sure listens to and cares about the individual. Give me a break.

[Razaell-sargeras (Razaell)]

10k on each server.

You know, each server. My goodness girl.

[Samweller-gnomeregan]

I’m mostly indifferent to the layering ‘issue’ - presumably like most people. There is a vocal minority speaking vehemently against it, and I completely understand their rationale for doing so. In the end, I don’t care much either way. In a perfect world, the layering tech wouldn’t be necessary, but it’s such a messy situation with lots of pros and cons for every possibly solution. I’m not sure that there is a single best answer. As the OP mentioned, this will hopefully be a very short-term problem and solution. Even if they launch more fresh servers down the road, I don’t think we’ll see the same influx of players as we will in August 2019.

[Razaell-sargeras (Razaell)]

Excuse me?

Man you need to work on your comprehension if that’s what you gathered.

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

Just don’t play

Funny. If the pro-layering crowd did this, they wouldn’t have to worry about server crashes and “hours-long queues”.

You seriously want crashing servers, and hour long ques before you can play the game you’ve been waiting for?

Scare-mongering.

[Ryouken-emerald-dream]

You seriously want crashing servers, and hour long ques before you can play the game you’ve been waiting for? No. you along with everyone else want to play on day one.

Scare-mongering

Queue times are real man. Blizz is playing it safe. If they need to add more servers when they stop layering the hardest part will be coming up with a name for it. If servers are dying though taking them down and compressing the population into less servers will be a much harder task

[Alyorbase-elune]

In addition, if this such a concern, make servers have multiple clusters at launch. Aka: Sargeras1, Sargeras2, Sargeras3, Sargeras4. Have your friends roll on the appropriate numbered server. After a few weeks, merge all Sargeras clusters in to Sargeras

So for all of you who hate layering (I hate it too, but I understand the reasons that Blizzard want to use it and accept it), this suggestion right here…that’s exactly what layering is and will be, the only difference is that you can somewhat interact with the other servers in the “cluster” so to speak. oh and if your friend who accidentally rolled on the wrong numbered “server” or couldn’t roll on your “server” because it was already full, you still can group and play with that person by moving to their “server”

[Theodras-stormrage]

If you actually do a little reading on it

The people who get bent out of shape about layering don’t have time read about it because they’re too busy being bent out of shape.

professional shape benders.

[Padrepwn-kiljaeden (Padrepwn)]

You are misusing the word brigading, Brigading requires malicious intent.

You prefer alt hopper? Doesn’t roll off the tongue quite like alt brigade. Oh so the Minute Men brigades had malicious intent? Here I thought they were just trying to defend there homeland and their people. Brigands have malicious intent. Aka highway men. Highway robbers.
A brigade is a group of similar minded people banded together for a common cause. Not quite the size of a platoon.

I signed the legacy server petition years back, which is why we have this game in the first place. Did you?

Ofc I signed it. I was playing on Nost when blizz shut her down.

These new forums are awful btw

I wouldn’t say completely awful but they sure could do a thing or too to clean them up. One such thing would be account wide forum rep and stats. So people wouldn’t hide so easily behind these low post count alts.
Another would be one forum name across all these toons. 50 individual avatars per user is ridiculous. When classic launches we will have 100. So it will get worse.

so not understanding the flex there with your 4,000 posts.

I said nothing about my post count. I did elude to the fact that low post counts are usually just folks changing avatars to appear as a different avatar. If you felt flexed on because of that…well…yea. That’s your issue.

U ok?

Never better. Thanks for asking. How you doing?
Like I said. You speak as though you’ve been here yet that avatar has a low post count. So you’re alt hopping.

[Fearoftdark-akama]

Fair warning, you’re engaging with the tin-foil hat, anti-layering troll brigade. It doesn’t matter how clear or reasonable your posts are, you won’t get anywhere with them. They’re not here for rational discussion, they’re here to bash Blizzard and layering, and they are not fully grasping reality.

Human paladin
Ugly transmog
Strawman argument

Results: Blizz fanboy

[Inalyri-exodar]

Human paladin
Ugly transmog
Strawman argument

Results: Blizz fanboy

Ah, actual results may vary: 47 y/o woman who was giving an opinion summary, not an argument.

[Mergons-terenas]

Nope U just don’t have anny argument, using words like “exploit heavily” Just go play on a pve server if u think you’re going to avoid all possible pvp anyways.

[Skribby-proudmoore (Skribby)]

It’s not hard to wrap your head around. Shoot, if my tiny monkey brain can do it I’m sure you can too…

Your tiny monkey brain missed a lot.

[Razaell-sargeras (Razaell)]

I hope English is not your first language. Maybe try re reading what I wrote.