You are so anti vanilla it hurts.
Go home.
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If there is no sharding and no layering, How bad will you all cry when you canât login at launch and when the servers keep crashing? Layering is fine. If they didnât tell you it was there, you wouldnât even notice.
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Original classic had the benefit of being new, and they were happy to add more servers for their growing game.
There is a lot of hype right now, and it will see a large influx of players in the first few weeks up to probably the first month, and then it will start to die off as people just lose interest, or have had their fill of nostalgia, or just donât feel like dedicating the amount of time classic requires.
Layering allows them to create more temporary space without them just creating more servers. So that when it does eventually slow down, the servers that remain wonât be ghost towns, and will hopefully have their own respectably sized communities.
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Respectfully, you and I donât see eye to eye on this.
What you saw in the stress test would be impossible on the tech used in 2004, back then they were woefully unprepared for the success and hype, certainly not enough servers, not good enough tech to support the flow. The earlier problems is that the server were not even playable, at all, that took time. What you will see happen without layering is a big queue time, but the servers will be up unlike back then.
I disagree, people are able to hit 30 relatively fast within beta as is, 3-5 days, and theyâre farming mythril among other high end resources using layer hopping on beta already. Amassing this early before layering is gone will negatively impact the economy. And you can bet there will be 60âs 1-2 weeks into live, but the layer hopping exploits will begin before cap.
They already do, through the methods mentioned above.
Another note, people keep bringing up server crashes, this was not profound problem on the modern systems blizzard uses from Legion and ahead ( which also is what beta partially uses now ). You wonât experience the server crashes akin to Classic / BC / WoD without layering.
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Iâm actually in the Beta and playing it. Iâm actually talking to my old guild mates to come and play it when it releases it.
Iâm very sorry that youâre unable to see past your entitled âI should have been invited wahhhhhâ attitude to see the practical reasoning behind layering, but from someone who was been through every. single. release (except BFA) I would prefer server stability over seeing 3,000 people in Goldshire.
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Stop using the internet and go wash your feet.
Congratulations on giving your money to blizzard so you can have your progress erased.
LOL.
Edit: I hit r14 in vanilla twice, you know actual vanilla. Not your classic dung heap.
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Is it going to though really? How big are these servers going to be if a third layer is required for a server?
What if those players in layers 2 and 3 are still active. The server will still require layers.
Weâve allowed the goal post to move and now we have sharding under a different name in Classic.
They should stress test without sharding and cap Servers with a que time. If you donât want to wait for que time play on another server.
Sharding is unacceptable. I am skeptical about this form of sharding ending after phase 1. I feel there will be an excuse and continue to shard players.
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I do recognize that in Beta we can farm up the ore and what not now by the methods you described. Just keep in mind that weâre stuck at 30 UNTIL Blizz gives us more content TO do. So, in Beta eventually people may have more money than what is expected when it gets released. And I respond withâŠITS BETA WHO CARES.
If someone wants to spend the first two or three weeks when Classic goes live to run around goldshire, loot all the ore, log out, log back in, and do it again just to try to gain an advantage, let them?! Do you ACTUALLY think there will be ore to mine?
Letâs play around with some numbers. Letâs say that on day 1, 4,000 people decide to make Alliance characters on Server 1. Now, the lucky ones that could actually complete their quests and move on to zone two we can discount for this conversation. So letâs say that 1,500 of those people have moved on to zone 2. I am curious as to why you feel that having a layer of a server where you see 1,000 people in your zone (as a guess) as opposed to an actual figure of 2,500 somehow is a negative thing? This isnât me being snide, but you say itâs important to you that everyone on the server sees you while youâre out questing, but why? What do is the benefit from that?
Yes, I know that in classic we ACTUALLY saw the full amount of people. However, the spirit of humanity is still alive like it was back then. You waiting around to kill some murlocks? Someone is bound to run up and invite you to a group and you kill together. Then ask âhey, you wanna do part 2 and 3 together?â Then you pick up more people a long the way. That feeling isnât diminished just because layering will be in effect for 2 or 3 weeks.
Now, if the layering is in effect for 3 months, thatâs when Iâll get on the pitch fork bandwagon. But until then, I chose to acknowledge the positive of the layering.
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Iâm not giving money to Blizz?
I donât pay to be in the closed beta. I apologize that youâre under the impression that you need an active subscription to be a beta tester. However, I do not have an active sub and I am a tester. I donât even own BFA and havent had an active sub to WoW sinceâŠfive or six months before BFA dropped. I also apologize that you feel like you need to pay an additional money to Blizz to Beta Test. Iâm playing 100% for free.
And thank you for reminding me that progress will be lost. I was a closed beta tester for the original classic, BC and Wrath so I am fully aware that I know progress can be erased at any time they chose to do so.
Thank you for letting me know you hit that rank in Classic. That must have been a peak moment in your life. I can tell since you not only recalled that number so clearly, but you wanted to tell me about it. Now, while I PvPâd in Classic, I couldnât tell you the rank number I got and honestly it wasnât what I was focused on back then. But as long as youâre proud of that rank 14 years later that is all that matters.
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Thank you for that suggestion. However, since the username you choose to go by isnât any better I donât think either one of us should be on the internet.
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Do you not understand how different go live with original WoW was to the startup of Classic? Do you not comprehend the numbers of people who are going to jump into Classic for a look around but will leave in days or weeks? Did you not notice that Vanilla gained popularity steadily and relatively slowly during its duration. THINGS ARE DIFFERENT this time and it requires a different response to make it all work.
P2 is to far away, their will already be tons of 60s and half the players will not even see the other half ever due to it
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phase 2 of what?
You could have been a bit more eloquent I think but yes I essentially agree, layering should NOT make it into live Classic.
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Itâll be ruined, RUINED! LOL, everybody is so dramatic.
If I can stand in one spot and farm the same node again and again in a short time span, yes, it will. You can do that in BFA and now you can do it in Classic. We donât want a BFA-Classic mix.
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At the start, weâll only be mining copper and tin. Wonât ruin the economy, sorry.
If you can farm the same node over and over, it still wonât ruin the economy, the number of nodes spread across layers are proportional to the number of players across layers. So it definetly wont ruin the economy, weâll need those nodes mined to sustain the huge multilayer player base.
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Is the AH shared? Possibly posted somewhere but I donât recall seeing it.
Yes, the AH is shared with all layers.