Last minute Mage Tower removal is in bad taste

That’s not true, I used my DF boost on a priest this weekend to get my last mog set.

I hadn’t even seen the announcment until today. Now I’m kinda bummed, I was hoping to get another reset of gear on him, and maybe see if any of the new talents could help. Did a few pulls on Disc with full 226 anima gear but felt I could use some of that gear advantage.

Just because I was putting off leveling a priest before now doesn’t mean I wasn’t planning to do it.

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I do wish they had announced this more clearly stated a month or two ago. I still have three challenges for the spelltome, and would have liked to knock out Xylem and Twins at least.

BUT…as far as we know, it’s coming back. And then we’ll have to re-learn the encounters. If I was a betting man, I’d gather they’ll make it so you can only have 40ish points total or something along those lines (or maybe with specific nodes disabled; arms with Spear of Bastion for example would trivialize P2 of that encounter) and that way the MT can remain somewhat evergreen beyond DF.

In any case, yeah, more notice would have been nice. But I wouldn’t waste time getting upset just yet. If it’s not back by or before 10.1, THEN I’d be ticked off for sure.

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September 2020.

Future patch status as of now : TBD.

Blizzard in a nutshell.

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Regrettable, for sure. Wish they’d get on that.

Are you comparing some less than great armor and weapon appearances (I would know, I did all that crap back during WoD) to an entire piece of Content that was brought back due to popular outcry?

I think Blizz will be way more prompt to reopen the MT compared to the WoD crafted stuff.

The type of content is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that they have claimed many times, “temproarily,” “in a future patch,” “we hear you,” “soon” and then years pass with no word.

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Dunno man, my Fated Devouring Cold, a weapon that worked fine in S2, is still bugged, 3 months later.

Dunno where that Draenei Heritage armor went too. Probably lost in the Soon and Future patches.

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Nelves, Forsaken, etc also need heritage.

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Take the V and forget about the rest. You will be better for it. :slightly_smiling_face:

Yeah, it’s tough when they disable content but it really should be closed at the start of a new expansion, reopened after season one or something. Yeah, it should also be communicated as early as possible to the players.

I feel for ya, just feel bad for me after they shut the gold rewards from mission tables off. :frowning:

Do you mean me, as the OP is “probably outraged” that I couldn’t cheese the challenge I completed yesterday, as per my OP?

No, he means how we should preserve the sanctity of the 36 second Arcane Mage MT challenge. Because we wouldn’t want to burst it any faster, the entire game might explode.

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Sadly, I think they are just rushed. This whole xpac feels rushed.

So this is one of the sacrifices that had to be made. I do agree with you though for the most part.

The sad part is, that this down time, when seasons are over and not much is going on, is the ideal time to be doing the mage tower.

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DF is gonna have to really wow some of us too not just leave us feeling meh at this point.

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No, no id does not. Its still current content for SL, nothing is changing but the talent trees. If they were worried about class balance, they would have already done it. But nope, they are in a huge rush for some reason, to push out possibly one of the least polished expansions in the games history.

I do not get it.

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No. It’s respect for the mage tower is content which is going to break and need to be re-tuned (and then re-tuned again when they screw up the first re-tuning) every single time player abilities change. Which is what is happening in the prepatch. If you didn’t see this coming… :woman_shrugging:

I mean, worse case ontario, some specs get some of the Legion legendary effects and abilities back (in a watered down version) that were available back in legion x2 leggos. But without the other buffs Legion MT allowed :man_shrugging:t5:

I guess it’s tough for us to speculate what Blizz’s goal is with current and future iterations of MT since they haven’t really stated their intentions(afaik?), and they threw it into 9.1.5 to lure players back from the WoW to FFXIV exodus without any real PTR testing. I kinda feel like the whole time it’s been live from 2021until this Tuesday has been the testing phase :sweat_smile:. Farfetch’d for Blizz, I know :rofl:

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Are those literally the only words you read in my OP? Sure seems like it.

I did Holy in under 10 attempts. It was one of the easier healer ones

I did read your very complain-y post which really has nothing to do with Blizzard. You scheduled to do something and it was thrown under the bus last second. An adult knows this happens without throwing a tantrum at a company for doing something said adult should have logically foreseen said company was going to do. They’re not removing it forever. You can do it more later. Honestly, it’s been out for quite a while now and if you’ve waited this long to work on it, what is the sudden rush now? Seriously, had they even said it a month earlier, all you would have done was complain a month earlier because omgyourschedule.

As for them being “unprofessional”, the actual unprofessional choice would be to leave it in when it can potentially be cheesed with weird talent setups and abilities which exist halfway between the abilities of two different expansions.

So yes, I did read your post. Grats on your new mog. You still should have seen the mage tower hiatus coming from a mile away.

They are most likely doing this so folks don’t get frustrated and want them to balance the MT during the pre-patch when we don’t even have our characters working as they are intended in DF

Besides the permanent MT-challenge is meant to be an “end-game challenge” (I know that it scales, but its meant to be done with you having access to all of your talents - that does make it end game, not gear based mind you but it does make it endgame even when scaled)

The MT should be tuned with DF in mind, that’s the point of removing it until they have done that - and that’s not something that even could be done before the release of DF in its full capacity

This is literally them just saving folks’ a headache, and ensuring that the point of the MT retains what makes it fun - pure challenge, with all Legion-and-beyond gear scaling down to Legion levels
And honestly, this probably was a last minute thought where someone realized it later on in the development cycle and they knew that they need to focus on getting everything to work for DF first, the MT-tuning, scaling, and all of that can come later - I can’t imagine this was something that was part of the long term planning and design with the talent trees, abilities, and even a new class in terms of the MT (which most likely also indicates that they want to make the MT work for Evokers as well, since if they close it down and want to make it work during DF then you’d imagine that they’d want it to work with the class launched in DF as well)

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because it will be unbalanced and people will abuse the unbalance and unlock everything while everyone had to work harder for it, that’s all it is

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