Knee Jerk Tuning

abilities that hit for 233k shouldnt get nerfed by more than 20%?

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Look, another one.

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Where are your non solo shuffle games played then?

Go feed the game modes you think people should be playing.
Personally, I dont have time to work out my schedule with 2 other nerds. RSS is whats going to keep the pvp aspect of this dated game alive.

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My point is we never needed anything from the last buff.

ā€œKnee Jerkā€

Comprehension.

I have been buffed and massively nerfed within a two week span. Neither or which address any of the issues which plague this class.

If you think this game is balanced properly keep giving them your money, thatā€™s cool.

I think these guys throw numbers up and hope it fixes stuff without any analytical data or player input.

huh 10char

Lmao homie these rets donā€™t even know teh abliity exists.

Shuffle lobbies with a ret where weā€™re facing an SP @ 2.6 mmr and the dude isnā€™t even playing sanc in to a f****ing shadow priest, itā€™s actually hilarious these people think theyā€™re good at the game

125k aoe final reckoning into aoe divine toll 90k judgement machine gun into 230k aoe radiant decree was an issue that plagued the class and needed to be adressed

Divine steed giving snare removal upon activating should be added into the game also.

Rets and hpals got huge survivability buff with 30% divine protection I think paladins across the board are undervalueing how huge this buff is.

And the rets that do use it have really slow reaction time with it and use it when thereā€™s 1 second of a stun or fear left

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Lol survivability buff? Have you even looked at the pallys trees? Do you know how many rets use that 1.4mintue defensive lol jezzz people talk about playing Ret who have never played it obviously lol

Horse can get rooted and slowed also knocked back, blessing of freedom can be dispelled so thatā€™s also out of the picture. And Iā€™m selective on pvp talents, Iā€™m not taking long arm of law over a dps increase and team utility.

What if you specced correctly though

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This was the first toon selected when I log into the forums, if you wanna see my ret you can go to check pvp and search Lucish and wellowar . 2 of my rets, I donā€™t care about u weirdos but nobody is embarrassed lol. Nothing about my take was false either, you ret haters are pathetic honestly.

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I have better talent choices to pick from. Unless I want to get rid of my wings free wings , my dot remove or stun removeā€¦ Iā€™m not taking that talent. I advocate for every spec, I donā€™t think any spec should be tuned like sht itā€™s nothing but legit toxic bias from u forum goers. There is no reasoning or logic, you just hate ret so u want ret to be crap.

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Talent undispellable freedom

Did you not read what I said at all, I might take it starting tomorrow instead aura of reckoning outside of bgs n rbgs It might be crap since it got a fat nerf.

In which situations do you opt into Unbound Freedom?

In which situations do I select the pvp talent to remove Stuns from my healer, my free wings or Lawbringer that increase my time to burst/burst potential and a judgment cure for me and my team?. All of them, all of them. Time to kill is too fast not to be running those and dots murder ret. So itā€™s either I die faster and do less dmg for SOME mobility or low mobility but huge dmg and team utility.

What do you mean by this

Afflic, spriest, feral , sub literally anyone with dots specifically Spriest just straight up murder ret. And BoP doesnā€™t work against magical attacks, Iā€™ve I gotta use my SoV on all of them and that sht just gets deleted aswell.

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Feral dots are mostly not dispellable, aff has one dot you canā€™t dispel and one you almost certainly shouldnā€™t be dispelling on cd with judge, sp is for the most part not bursting with its dots, neither is sub

It really doesnā€™t sound like you have a strong understanding of why youā€™re dying versus most of the specs you say counter ret

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Iā€™m pretty sure ret is going to be swamp tier after tomorrow.
BUT
There isnā€™t any value in complaining like this on the forums before the change. It only serves to makes the people that just hate ret for, I donā€™t exactly know why, dig in harder. It also allows blizzard to start adjusting ret into a better direction.

Anyone saying ret is S tier right now, or theyā€™re going to be insane tomorrow are trolling. Theyā€™ll likely be really bad, but it might work out better in the end that way.

There are other factors in play as well. DKs taking big nerfs will help ret in shuffle because they are in every game. Warriors getting buffed is good. Ret does well into warriors and with warriors. Plus nothing can be as bad launch shuffle with spriest, dh in every lobby shredding ret within the first 20 seconds through bubble and every defensive button.

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