If not trolling then I know what you mean, these retail idiots think they can just attack anything while in dungeons. They can at low level dungeons so I didnt tank until 40-50 ish dungeons. I also had 2 other RL friends with me for kick protection in dungeon runs. So any other 2 dps that didn’t like it got kicked. I don’t tolerate dumb rushing cus they are use to mythic+ bs. They can go back to retail for that. Having a warlock with you is so helpful. Also don’t let people discourage you from playing, you just havn’t found the right guild for you. I hope you find one that are genuinely good people.
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They hit you with that 43 threat. You’re just aggro’d onto them for now. Go sleep, reset, and get back on that grind.
Or something.
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OP continues to elevate troll to new levels. 8/10.
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This isn’t 2004 vanilla, this is 2019 and people are playing classic with a mindset of BFA. This is a whole different experience.
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If you are only using sunder and revenge for threat i see why they kicked you.
Use battle shout, demo shout, charge-tclap. Bam, aoe threat. (Not neciscarilly in that order)
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That’s unlikely, since it was this way in actual vanilla. Spamming shout will not always be enough, so do it in a way where you always have enough rage to immediately taunt+sunder if you’re pulled off of. Some priest like me might mess around and Mind Blast, which is basically caster-taunt, and you’ll need to react with something that isn’t Demo Shout.
What I will say is, no matter what issue a group is having, the person who shows salt/rage first will usually come off as the bad guy. If you, at any point, said this line to your group:
… then I have no issues imagining how your guild troubles developed. Make sure, especially as a tank and healer, you handle all group constructive criticism delicately. Nobody wants to follow the advice of someone yelling/belittling them and might just outright choose to ignore it no matter how logical your advice was.
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Side note that this does virtually 0 threat in comparison to like, 1 damage from a rogue with 3 skill in throwing weapons. Waste no rage on thunderclap, immediately Demo Shout instead.
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Charging in and hitting demoshout sounds like a perfectly good way to pull extra packs. I shoot and LOS.
It’s funny how seemingly easily OP’s guild was offended by what he wrote. People take green text in the bottom left of their game window a tad bit seriously in #2019. OP don’t change, keep calling morons out for moronic behaviour because that is what they deserve. If players can’t follow the lead of their tank then they’ve no business being in a dungeon in the first place.
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one time i made my grandma cry, i thought i was smart and told her that each cigg she smoked took years off her life i even calculated how many years off her life each cig she smoked took x amount of years off her life.
she burst out crying my grandpa stopped the car and pulled me aside.
he told me a good life lesson he said “sometimes its better to be nice than clever”
i never forgot this lesson
be nice let them figure out the mechanics, its a game you got kicked because you forgot being nice is better than being clever.
just let them learn., being smart is the ability to judge the situation a lesson learned.
its all good
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My repair bills aren’t nice or clever.
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at least you don’t have to waste your time with such a foolish guild anymore look at it as a blessing in disguise
lvl 28 its not that serious
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I’ve had similar experiences. People come into Classic from BFA thinking tanks just get aggro by default. Ran an RFC group last night with a dude who could not/would not understand that tanking in Classic is different in BFA. He just wanted me to “keep aggro brah”. Fortunately, my healer was also my girlfriend, and she just refused to heal him.
Eventually, after dying many times, he just left the group. We got a replacement who wasn’t a retard, and had no issues after that.
I don’t tank PUGs my girlfriend isn’t healing.
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At no point did I ever say to charge or not charge. But also Thunderclap is a 6 yard range and Demo Shout is a 10 yard range. In any situation you are ever in against mobs your level, you are going to body pull from much further than Demo Shout range.
So you essentially picked out one minor point, extrapolated it to an extreme situation to counter a logical argument, and moved on without ever addressing the actual topic.
I’d probably kick you from my group too, at this point.
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No, this actually used to happen frequently back in the day before people understood and could accept the criticism. This is history repeating itself.
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I would guess it is not what you are saying but how you are saying it.
Be polite and likely this will be a non-issue
Alliance nough said
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OK… I can clearly see that nobody wants to be the bad guy here and explain what junior is doing wrong. Or you guys are as clueless as he is.
First… you don’t even know what you don’t even know about tanking. This isn’t retail, its Classic. Half these guys don’t even know how a warrior is played. The other half don’t care. The only thing they care about is you holding agro. It worked this way 15 years ago too.
I’m prot spec to the core and could care less about ‘waiting for sunders’. You pull a generic 3 mobs, #1 is the first mob to die, and two adds. You sunder the two adds and then target the first mob and hit TAUNT… followed quickly by Two Sunders. The taunt gives you the threat of the highest person on the agro list, and Sunder then comes over the top to lock agro. Toss in an extra sunder on the off mobs as the first is dying to lock them. As a bonus, it takes 110% threat to pull the mob, so if DPS have lit it up, you get an extra 10% overhead of whatever threat the top guy had.
If you find yourself in an AE group… you want to pull mobs in packs of 5-6 or what you can handle, hit bloodrage, Demo Shout, and start tab sundering. If you can generate enough rage from stuff hitting you… start chaining Demo Shout. With enough mobs hitting you, the rage will go into runaway(it’ll generate enough rage in between cooldowns to replace what your spending) and it’ll become hard not to have rage. That then locks down the pack. If anything pulls to a DPS, turn… target… taunt… sunder to pull it back… and then go back to chaining demo.
Its not hard, but it is technical and requires timing. Warrior in Classic isn’t the easiest class to play, but when you Get Better its actually rather fun.
Also, if you spec into prot it can get a lot easier. In particular Defiance gives you 15% added threat. And Imp Sunder makes Sunder Armor 12 rage to make it light up sooner on white damage and have to bloodrage less.
Or you can be an idiot arms dealer and gear like a hunter, go around sweeping your strikes while cleaving your whatever, while getting blown up and then claiming you were a stud at tanking with arms on the forums because you smoked the parse on some instance 5 levels below you. Ya… those folks exist rolls eyes.
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The guy above me sounds really good.
I’d like to point out that it sounds like you’re overcautious and extremely slow. The group gets impatient, they pull or don’t wait for your agro because you’ve taken too long. It’s just downhill from here, and any attempt by you to fix it at this point will be met with hostility, because the group had already assumed you’re slow and it’s not going to get better. I could be wrong, but:
I make a terrible tank, because I’m the same way. I hate dieing, I make sure the healer has time for mana, everyone’s ready, pull around a corner.
The difference between me and you is I know it, and I left it to better ppl.
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