But it also can show if the kick was justified or not. But then again Blizzard doesn’t care that much.
You could always in that situation put “This post may have objectionable language. Do you want to see it?” or just let the player auto file the grievance and let the GMs handle it. This functions with Whispers quite well right now.
No it can’t
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“Bad tank” and “sux” are not “rancid reasons.” They could actually be legitimate reasons, because that person was wiping the group with their poor playing. The group shouldn’t have to suffer through that out of fear they’d be sanctioned for saying the tank is bad or the person can’t play.
Now… there should be a way to report profanity from that box, yes.
No it can’t.
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If you mean deserter for getting kicked: Wrath.
If you mean deserter even after you kill a boss with the group: TWW pre-season 1, because they obviously had to do something about a problem that was going to solve itself naturally in about a week.
I think that a button that automatically reports someone after a player was kicked is not beneficial to the game. I imagine a large number of people will hit that button, even when there isn’t any inappropriate language. That said, I do agree you should be able to report profanity when someone types it in the vote-to-kick reason field, but I believe that should come from one of the players who is seeing the prompt rather than the person kicked.
I genuinely believe that they got absurd amounts of feedback on the topic, but I also genuinely believe that whoever drafted this change got a hearty chuckle knowing exactly the kind of drama it’d cause.
You’re not a dev or a GM so they can pull things up and see things. I know there is a lot of bogus kicks that got made just from this expansion alone. All it would take is going through the kick forms. But like I said Blizzard doesn’t care.
What people do care however is the deserter penalty for getting kicked.
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The problem is that your definition of a ‘bogus’ kick appears to differ from blizzard’s definition.
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But they are literate. Anyone can be kicked for any reason, or no reason at all. If the group doesn’t want you there, that’s the end of it.
Nobody wants the penalty when it applies to them. But I’d much rather the penalty on kicks than tanks/healers not running the dungeon because they know a kick gives them a 20-second requeue.
This is actually the entire point of the penalty. It deters a lot of unwanted behavior because nobody wants the penalty to be applied to them.
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They can see data numbers. And if some tank is moving faster than the healer and the group wants, a GM doesn’t get to decide their opinion on that.
No o e should be afraid of being sanctioned and ha e to deal with a stressful group because you want a GM sanctioning reasons you dislike.
You don’t. You onky have anecdotal evidence. Just like the rest of us. Only Blizz has the numbers on kicks and deserters.
And that penalty is in place because people are degenerates in this game.
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Most likely there were removed from dungeons because they were being toxic, so they come to the forums, and spread a different story because they didn’t agree with being kicked.
And how do you fix something that isn’t broken?
Even if they were getting kicked for stupid reasons or no reason, that’s most likely extremely rare.
Which means the other times people are getting kicked for legitimate reasons would be under a microscope. And people would be in groups with trolls or those who don’t listen and make things longer or more difficult. Which could lead to them getting sanctioned for a legitimate removal— or afraid to even try to remove, out of fear that a GM won’t agree, because they can’t see the whole picture or weren’t part of the group to understand.
So how does that benefit the majority of the playerbase if legitimate kicks are sanctioned because a GM doesn’t understand the situation? This is what people fail to take under consideration.
This system is the lesser of two evils. And in this instance for this idea… it’s the lesser of the worst evil.
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Who said anything about account sanctions? Why would a GM care unless they are putting trash in the kick form? What these threads are about is reducing the time of the penalty of getting kicked.
This used to be me until I thought about how it had to suck if people got kicked for rando reasons. So now I take .2 second to take a second glance lol
Two other people who brought this up.
And why do you want a GM looking at kicks to determine if they’re legitimate or not if they aren’t doing anything?
They aren’t just about that and this has already been shot down, because people don’t respond to small amounts of time as punishment. That’s the exact reason they stopped giving out short silences for chat violations.
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Realistically, all potentially punishing people for reporting in good faith (even if the report does turn out to not warrant any action) does is deter people from reporting, in a way that protects the people who actually deserve actions.
So arguing to punish ‘false’ reports is the same as arguing to protect the trolls.
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You keep saying how people are kicking for the lulz all the time so why wouldn’t they hold groups hostage like they did before? The fact you even ask this question tells me you weren’t there when it was going on. Yes people will absolutely hold groups hostage to get kicked and avoid certain dungeons if they think they can get away with it. How many groups complain anytime they get shoved into Dawnbreaker right now? I agree with you there’s no point in it, but you underestimate the lengths some players will go to if they think it benefits them. Simply put deserter needs to stay where it is. Especially since people have yet to produce any kind of evidence of kicking for the lulz being an actual problem.
Well if they allowed dungeon blacklisting then that would solve the I got put in the dungeon I hate the most.
But still group hostage is a major waste of time it benefits no one. All they are doing is wasting hours of time doing nothing when they can leave take the 30 minutes and re Q.
It amuses me that people say they can kick for any reason but then those same blues had to explain to people that they can’t refuse people from certain regions into their groups. Currently people can put any or no reason into the box, and what is put in the box isn’t reportable at all including slurs. Vtk could easily be removed, and any issues dealt with via the same methods you have to report griefing in general.
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